: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:05 pm  

The Biffs Back wrote:

I'm struggling to comprehend here why your just the unofficial most boring Wigan poster?

Can we not make it official?

The vote placed me third.

: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:06 pm  

jonh wrote:

Mainly due to the fact non have justified selection apart from Tomkins and Locky.

Tomkins we do not yet know enough about at this level and Locky is injured so nothing more to say.

Burrow. McGuire, Sinfield, Wilkin, Pryce, Wellens etc have all failed at International level to produce the form they have at club level. Sinfield may well come out of this group if he continues to perform like he has over the course of his last 120 minutes International form.

im pretty sure i have seen all those players beat either Australia or New Zealand, and im pretty sure most have beaten both, and i have seen all give better performances at international level than their counterparts did last night

Maybe those players are our best, maybe we just arent that good that we can go into series and comps thinking we should win the thing, we werent that far from NZ in the world cup, we thrashed them the series before and the year before that beat Australia in Sydney, we can compete and always have

we have always been in and around and this squad has acheived nothing more than many England squads have

the hailing of Tomkins and Eastmond as the answer is as stupid as the casting out of the rest as not good enough

: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:13 pm  

jonh wrote:

The vote placed me third.

You mean that theres only 2 more boring posters than you from Wigan?

: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:17 pm  

The Biffs Back wrote:

You mean that theres only 2 more boring posters than you from Wigan?

One will be "Wigan/Leeds Andy" not sure who the other would be

: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:18 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

im pretty sure i have seen all those players beat either Australia or New Zealand, and im pretty sure most have beaten both, and i have seen all give better performances at international level than their counterparts did last night

Maybe those players are our best, maybe we just arent that good that we can go into series and comps thinking we should win the thing, we werent that far from NZ in the world cup, we thrashed them the series before and the year before that beat Australia in Sydney, we can compete and always have

we have always been in and around and this squad has acheived nothing more than many England squads have

the hailing of Tomkins and Eastmond as the answer is as stupid as the casting out of the rest as not good enough

Who exactly is doing that? There are a lot of incorrect assumptions being made and levelled at me.

I may be boring but the level of arrogance and ignorance when people are trying to put words in my mouth is unbelievable, same old Leeds fans though i guess.

: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:20 pm  

jonh wrote:

Mainly due to the fact non have justified selection apart from Tomkins and Locky.

Oh I see, so the entire England team are undeserving of their places except the 2 Wigan players

jonh wrote:

Tomkins we do not yet know enough about at this level and Locky is injured so nothing more to say.

Locky, or is it SOL? I've got confused with all these pet names you have for each other.

jonh wrote:

Burrow. McGuire, Sinfield, Wilkin, Pryce, Wellens etc have all failed at International level to produce the form they have at club level.

When? In every international appearance? Or in the World Cup? Because all those players you've mentioned have excelled at one point or another in their international careers. Maybe not for long, but certainly for as long as your 2 Wigan players who seem immune from de-selection in your view.
By the way it hasnt escaped notice that you only mentioned Leeds and Saints players as players who arent able to make the step up. So the 2 teams that have dominated for years arent good enough, but Wigan who only escaped relegation by cheating are more able to step up to the plate

You appear to be like the other idiots who simply want no-one who played in the World Cup to ever pull on an England shirt again. As if pride was a reason why we played so poorly.
If you'd said Wellens had lost his pace and so someone like Briscoe would be a better bet at full back and come up with similar reasons for not selecting the others then we may be able to take you seriously. But just issuing a blanket statement like "they've failed to perform" is useless.

: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:21 pm  

A Wigan supporter calling Leeds fans arrogant??

: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:28 pm  

dear me, you would though having made himself look stupid time and again he would slink away but he keeps coming back for more

: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:30 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

dear me, you would though having made himself look stupid time and again he would slink away but he keeps coming back for more

Now known as "doing a Ramrod".

: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:32 pm  

too true