: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:46 pm  

Fully wrote:

So was it not Wakefield's fault they weren't included in SL, even if partly? Do Keighley and Widnes not have more of a claim to be aggrieved? Take off those blue, white and red glasses and see that Wakefield's destiny, like Castleford's, is in their own hands. This bitch fighting is getting very tedious, especially considering we have very little, if any, control over what happens at Red Hall in 1 and half years time.

No it wasn't our falt, the rules for selection were drawn up at the end of the Season without anyone having a fair chance to make a bid. Keighley, Fev and Widnes all have an equal claim to be aggravated.

As for the future, yes our destiny is in our own hands, at least this time we all know what rules we are playing to.

: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:01 pm  

deeHell wrote:

In 2002 (not 2000) you beat to Salford on the last day off the season to qualify for the play offs! A win for Cas would of done Wakey good as long as they beat Wires at home. The Castleford team and the fans motivation that day was to make the play offs. Don't try and make out that it was noble crusade by Cas to do their neighbours a big favour! It as just favourable circumstance on our part.....FACT!

As if I'd make out it was a noble crusade on our behalf .

: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:03 pm  

Gazemous wrote:

Similarly, Wakey's 'actions' to 'send us down' were equally nothing to do with Cas, hasn't stopped you and your breathren banging on about them for the past 5 years though...

We were already as good as down anyway that season but deehell is just deluded on that and thinks Wakey sent us down that year. What a shame he doesn't know the truth.

: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:08 pm  

Who gives a rats booty about the past (yes i knows its important) its the future thats should concern both sets of fans.

If we both don't secure new grounds then this "debate" will end very soon.

: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:13 pm  

jourdmart wrote:

Over the past 5 years, yes. Over the 5 years from 1999 to 2004, no - consistently much lower.

FINAL LEAGUE PSOISTIONS:

Wakey Cas
2009 7 8
2008 8 12
2007 - -
2006 10 11
2005 - -
2004 6 12
2003 11 8
2002 11 6
2001 11 6
2000 10 5
1999 11 5

AVE: 9.4 8.1

Surely for 2005 and 07 the best way to grade it would be to put Cas on 13th position (Overhaul League standing), or the numbers won't tell the full story if them seasons are not included. Remember the argument is who has been the best team in the last 10 years, not 11 has you have put on your post. So the real comparison would be as follows.

Wakey Cas

2009 5 7
2008 8 12
2007 8 13
2006 10 11
2005 10 13 (that been generous considering you finished 2nd in NL)
2004 6 12
2003 11 8
2002 11 6
2001 11 6
2000 10 5

If we included 1999 we would be going into an 11 year window.

So we have the following average league finish position as follows;

Wakefield = 9
Castleford = 9.3

In head to head performances in SL we have the following;

Wakefield = 12
Castleford = 10

Again I've been generous by leaving out the 2003 CC beating we give you.

So their you go Wakefield win in both departments, Cas defiantly had the better of the first 5 years and Wakey the next 5 years. The most worrying thing for Cas is how drastic the balance of power moved in the district. All the momentum going into the future is undoubtedly with the Wildcats!

: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:15 pm  

stantrin wrote:

My point is in the last decade Wakefield have been the superior team.

Can't argue with that mate!

: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:19 pm  

Gazemous wrote:

Similarly, Wakey's 'actions' to 'send us down' were equally nothing to do with Cas, hasn't stopped you and your breathren banging on about them for the past 5 years though...

It was in 2006, you boys had to suffer that fate. Especially after the gloating from the aeroplane man..."NO FEAR ITS ONLY KEAR" funniest thing i've seen ever at a rugby game.

: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:34 pm  

deeHell wrote:

It was in 2007, you boys had to suffer that fate. Especially after the gloating from the aeroplane man..."NO FEAR ITS ONLY KEAR" funniest thing i've seen ever at a rugby game.

We were in NL1 in 2007.

Someone published a league table of average finishes in SL since its inception and coincidentally Cas were joint 11th whilst Wakefield were a lot lower.

: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:00 pm  

Fully wrote:

We were in NL1 in 2007.

Someone published a league table of average finishes in SL since its inception and coincidentally Cas were joint 11th whilst Wakefield were a lot lower.

Look at 05 m8 when we were in NL1 with gates of 5,424 and our little city friends could only get 5,100 playing all the best teams

: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:32 pm  

baztiger wrote:

Look at 05 m8 when we were in NL1 with gates of 5,424 and our little city friends could only get 5,100 playing all the best teams

Don't start that one please