FORUMS FORUMS




   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - TO MERGE OR NOT TO MERGE THAT IS THE QUESTION.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star5123
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 07 201114 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
20th Sep 24 07:205th Apr 24 17:27LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
WF10 - just a small town in Wakefield

"if Newmarket is under construction in 12 months time I think our place in the top 10 of SL will be assured & we'll have nothing more to worry about".

That is a big IF there Trinitarian. Do you think your attendances will remain constant at NW? I still think it as a massive gamble moving out of the city.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star3213
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 26 201212 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
4th Oct 23 17:322nd Aug 21 12:06LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

vastman wrote:
This coming from a Bradford fan jeez the stink of hypocrisy and conceit is almost unbearable.

Well then lets merge Leeds/Bradford, Hull/Hull KR, Wigan/Leigh and Widnes/Warrington for all the same reasons and of course looking from the outside.

I'm sick to death of pompous wally's like you demanding we do something that no other clubs are willing to do despite it being exactly the same - now do one.


Not the point I was making at all. I never demanded that you HAD to merge. I was just saying that merger might be a more sensible solution than 3 clubs going to the wall.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11032No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 17 200322 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Jul 20 18:298th Mar 19 23:21LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
SL For Good

roofaldo2 wrote:
Not the point I was making at all. I never demanded that you HAD to merge. I was just saying that merger might be a more sensible solution than 3 clubs going to the wall.


Stop making a tit of yourself mate, your an outsider and you don't know what your talking about.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11032No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 17 200322 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Jul 20 18:298th Mar 19 23:21LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
SL For Good

roofaldo2 wrote:
Not the point I was making at all. I never demanded that you HAD to merge. I was just saying that merger might be a more sensible solution than 3 clubs going to the wall.


Stop making a tit of yourself mate, your an outsider and you don't know what your talking about.
Uppo58 
RankPostsTeam
International Star594
JoinedServiceReputation
May 16 201114 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Mar 24 01:141st Feb 24 08:29LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Before I close on this v important issue, I will just say Good luck to you 3 great clubs, whichever route you choose for your own survival. I love coming to your grounds which are so special. And if these 3 grounds can be the basis for your futures then brilliant. I just think its unlikely.
In this day and age I just fear the worst and as times and seasons move on, the more the inevitable comes closer. You see I'd just rather the area continues in SL with all that is required today from Clubs and Stadia.

You have a unique opportunity that no other area has. I just want you to see that rather than hang on to the 3 dodgy lifebelts your grounds have become, it is time to hold hands and grab onto that new boat and be prepared to give up part of what each of you have now to create a long term assured future and create sometthing far bigger than any one of you individually could ever become.
At Hull FC our move to the KC has given us something far more than we ever thought it would be when we left our beloved Boulevard. Many then said they'd never go to a new stadium and some still ache for that feeling of a packed boulevard on a big night, me included. But for me its pure nostalgia, would I give up the KC ? never , never , never.
Some big decisions lie ahead for you guys. If Newmarket goes ahead it may yet save Wakefield and Super League in the area. and Cas and Fev will never be the same again in my opinion. If the Newmarket project fails for Wakefield, then if you do not all join hands and try again, it may well be the end of SL for all of you. That is something no-one wants. Dont allow it to happen, come together and do the right thing. Good Luck .
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1313No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 12 200619 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Aug 15 19:135th Aug 15 19:13LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Walton, suburb of castleford
Signature
Disco - Expansion of the game is a good thing, undoubtedly, but in the main what people simply want to assert is that you don't kill the roots to spread the tree.

The Curtism - The battles are fought on the field and the friends are made in the bar. There's no hatred among real men.

EFC - In Martinez We Trust

9th Place RLFANS Poker Tournament 2010

Cas forever, Merger Never!

I still have the programme and sticker from the Easter weekend both Fev and Wakey games when we first said No to the poison dwarf and the RFL.
All these fans however well placed their intentions ask yourself one question...
We all have bitter enemies for opposition, would you gladly merge with yours?
Or would you nail your colours to your clubs mast in whatever guise it is?
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach153No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 20 201015 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Jul 15 21:1228th Jul 15 21:20LINK
Milestone Posts
100
200
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Uppo58 explain to me why Hull & Hull KR shouldn't merge. HKR are in financial trouble with an unfinished stadium so they should move to the KC and you can play in red & black hoops and call yourselves the Humberside Rovers. With everyone in Hull following the same team you'd be unstoppable wouldn't you?
Or is it do as I say not as I do?
RankPostsTeam
International Star444No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 16 201114 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Oct 18 14:383rd Mar 18 16:22LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

What drives you mad is a person from a club who has just gone bust, bailed out by the RFL, & walked away from all it's debts, a club who play in the most uninviting place you could imagine, when it was graded for SL it said it had it's finances under control, & an iconic ground, & given a grade B, then we find there going bankrupt, & went to the wall.

Luckily they had the foresight to get rid off there main asset, the ground, to the RFL. it would have been better if the council had used it as a land fill site for the foreseeable future......when you have paid all the creditors what there owed, then come & tell us how it's done.
madogg 
RankPostsTeam
International Star26No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 07 201312 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Oct 13 08:296th Oct 13 08:19LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Uppo58 wrote:
Before I close on this v important issue, I will just say Good luck to you 3 great clubs, whichever route you choose for your own survival. I love coming to your grounds which are so special. And if these 3 grounds can be the basis for your futures then brilliant. I just think its unlikely.
In this day and age I just fear the worst and as times and seasons move on, the more the inevitable comes closer. You see I'd just rather the area continues in SL with all that is required today from Clubs and Stadia.

You have a unique opportunity that no other area has. I just want you to see that rather than hang on to the 3 dodgy lifebelts your grounds have become, it is time to hold hands and grab onto that new boat and be prepared to give up part of what each of you have now to create a long term assured future and create sometthing far bigger than any one of you individually could ever become.
At Hull FC our move to the KC has given us something far more than we ever thought it would be when we left our beloved Boulevard. Many then said they'd never go to a new stadium and some still ache for that feeling of a packed boulevard on a big night, me included. But for me its pure nostalgia, would I give up the KC ? never , never , never.
Some big decisions lie ahead for you guys. If Newmarket goes ahead it may yet save Wakefield and Super League in the area. and Cas and Fev will never be the same again in my opinion. If the Newmarket project fails for Wakefield, then if you do not all join hands and try again, it may well be the end of SL for all of you. That is something no-one wants. Dont allow it to happen, come together and do the right thing. Good Luck .

shame moving to the kc hasnt brought u any success u parasite go away u div
Uppo58 
RankPostsTeam
International Star594
JoinedServiceReputation
May 16 201114 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Mar 24 01:141st Feb 24 08:29LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

ExiledTiger wrote:
Uppo58 explain to me why Hull & Hull KR shouldn't merge. HKR are in financial trouble with an unfinished stadium so they should move to the KC and you can play in red & black hoops and call yourselves the Humberside Rovers. With everyone in Hull following the same team you'd be unstoppable wouldn't you?
Or is it do as I say not as I do?


Hello Exile its good point you make, but so many things are different for us. Hull FC do not have the needs and goals for survival that Cas Fev and Wakefield have. Infact we've held an 'A' Licence for a number of years so we are seen By RedHall to be a well run club. Our SL future is not on the line. Even in the Agar years which did not bring us entertaining Rugby our attendances were amongst the highest in SL. We are undergoing heavy investment at the mo in a effort to attract and nurture even more talent. Look I could go on but the point is we at Hull FC fortunately are just not in the same boat as you so we don't have the need to merge.

But HKR do suffer from many of the same key issues that you Trin and Fev do. They have limited attendance ceiling, they are losing money heavily. These are the key points for them that raise a huge question mark over their survival. But unlike you they do not have 2 partners in the same boat who are just 3 miles away.

HKR are also different from you in other ways which I can see justify their belief in their great days returning. For make no mistake, they once were not just just a champion side they were a champion club. They were able to make profits season on seaon, they had the ability to bring the worlds best players to HKR and pay the world record transfer fees if they had too. and they won trophies ....lots of em. They were definitely a big fish in a big Pool and they are hanging on hard to those days returning. Sadly for our neighbours like yourselfs its all historic talk because something went seriously wrong with the management of Rovers for which they are still paying the price today. But with real investment in the team and continued investment in Craven park they maybe have a chance. But its a big 'maybe'. Things have changed for them and though their support is fantastic and loud it is limited. And when it gets tough on the field it gets worryingly low. They cannot even survive on the best they are getting today so something big has to change at Craven Park too.

You would indeed have a point if we were in the same boat as Rovers and if you turn the clock back I can remember poor gates at the Boulevard for a long periods whch almost brought our demise. But one thing we always had even in those days was potential, and that was a potential to be amongst the best again, attract big crowds, and win things. and thats what happened. We have had a share of luck too but we are essentially a strong club and we have won trophies through every decade from the 70s 80s 90s to the noughties. But had those doldrum years continued and Rovers too like today were faced with a death wish scenario then calls would be made to merge. Your right Hull FC would always fight to stay alone because we know we can achieve 16k crowds and if Pearson can bring us silverware who knows what it could be ? you could easily add at least 3k to that.

So ultimately the fact we come from a City and we have large traditional support means we wont be calling for a merger here as there just isnt the need and we expect to have a future, a SL future, be profitable and hope to be bringing silverware home again soon. If that were true for Cas Wakey and Fev then i'm sure you'd feel the same. I believe a merger will guarantee you this.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 24 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Castleford Tigers


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Rumours thread
PopTart
2715
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64069
6m
New Disciplinary rules
leeds owl
18
8m
Film game
BOSS HOG
6931
8m
2025
the-bearded-
12
25m
Recruitment rumours and links
Lord Tony Sm
3747
27m
New Disciplinary Points System
Zig
11
29m
New disciplinary rules
B0NES
20
32m
Rumours and signings v9
Zig
29004
34m
Fixtures 2025
B0NES
88
45m
Transfer Talk V5
YosemiteSam
685
56m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41271
Recent
RL Challenge Cup
Cokey
8
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hullrealist
4483
Recent
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Frank Bumper
24
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1s
Transfer Talk V5
YosemiteSam
685
3s
The Shay
faxcar
163
3s
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Frank Bumper
24
3s
Rumours and signings v9
Zig
29004
4s
RL Challenge Cup
Cokey
8
6s
Rumours thread
PopTart
2715
9s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2881
11s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64069
20s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hullrealist
4483
23s
Recruitment rumours and links
Lord Tony Sm
3747
28s
New disciplinary rules
B0NES
20
34s
Film game
BOSS HOG
6931
38s
Challenge cup
Bullseye
7
39s
TV Games - Not Hull
mwindass
3086
45s
Salford
Wires71
116
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Challenge Cup Draw
Mark_P1973
5
TODAY
MMOexp Diablo4 with challenging foes
BennieJeansg
1
TODAY
Sponsorship Opportunity - Brasil
ElBarto
1
TODAY
Challenge cup
Faxlore
9
TODAY
Pre-Season fixture - Tuesday 14 January 2025
Wanderer
1
TODAY
RL Challenge Cup
Cokey
8
TODAY
Challenge cup
Bullseye
7
TODAY
Challenge Cup draw
karetaker
1
TODAY
London or Goole in cup
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
New Disciplinary Rules
Wires71
5
TODAY
Crusaders Friendly
Deadcowboys1
1
TODAY
Quota and cap exemptions
Kirmudgeonly
8
TODAY
Bain gone
Trojan Horse
44
TODAY
New disciplinary rules
B0NES
20
TODAY
Josh Rourke
Deadcowboys1
1
TODAY
Fantasy Rugby League Competition
Pantherfax12
1
TODAY
Captain Mac
Dr Dreadnoug
9
TODAY
Mkm pitch
UllFC
6
TODAY
Sky coverage
ninearches
7
TODAY
Redvee Update
ratticusfinc
11
TODAY
New disciplinary rules
Pumpetypump
5
TODAY
New Disciplinary Points System
Zig
11
TODAY
Fantasy Rugby League Competition
Pantherfax12
1
TODAY
Fantasy Rugby League
Pantherfax12
1
TODAY
New walk out build up song
Scarlet Pimp
63
TODAY
New Disciplinary rules
leeds owl
18
TODAY
Who do we want and who can we get
BoredWiganer
5
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
789
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
1502
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
1604
Ben Lam Leaves Dragons..
1417
New Roles for HULL KR...
1362
Jet2 has signed a major sponso..
1505
Thirkill and Hood complete Hul..
1630
Captains Challenge for Televis..
1768
England Women Las Vegas train-..
1884
Opening Championship and Leagu..
2018
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
3364
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
2307
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
2785
England's Women Demolish The W..
2523
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
2963
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sat 18th Jan
CC2025
12:30
Water W-Leigh Miners
Sun 19th Jan
CC2025
14:00
Thatto Heath-Orrell
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Rumours thread
PopTart
2715
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64069
6m
New Disciplinary rules
leeds owl
18
8m
Film game
BOSS HOG
6931
8m
2025
the-bearded-
12
25m
Recruitment rumours and links
Lord Tony Sm
3747
27m
New Disciplinary Points System
Zig
11
29m
New disciplinary rules
B0NES
20
32m
Rumours and signings v9
Zig
29004
34m
Fixtures 2025
B0NES
88
45m
Transfer Talk V5
YosemiteSam
685
56m
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41271
Recent
RL Challenge Cup
Cokey
8
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hullrealist
4483
Recent
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Frank Bumper
24
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1s
Transfer Talk V5
YosemiteSam
685
3s
The Shay
faxcar
163
3s
Salford Supermarket Sweep
Frank Bumper
24
3s
Rumours and signings v9
Zig
29004
4s
RL Challenge Cup
Cokey
8
6s
Rumours thread
PopTart
2715
9s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2881
11s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64069
20s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hullrealist
4483
23s
Recruitment rumours and links
Lord Tony Sm
3747
28s
New disciplinary rules
B0NES
20
34s
Film game
BOSS HOG
6931
38s
Challenge cup
Bullseye
7
39s
TV Games - Not Hull
mwindass
3086
45s
Salford
Wires71
116
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Challenge Cup Draw
Mark_P1973
5
TODAY
MMOexp Diablo4 with challenging foes
BennieJeansg
1
TODAY
Sponsorship Opportunity - Brasil
ElBarto
1
TODAY
Challenge cup
Faxlore
9
TODAY
Pre-Season fixture - Tuesday 14 January 2025
Wanderer
1
TODAY
RL Challenge Cup
Cokey
8
TODAY
Challenge cup
Bullseye
7
TODAY
Challenge Cup draw
karetaker
1
TODAY
London or Goole in cup
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
New Disciplinary Rules
Wires71
5
TODAY
Crusaders Friendly
Deadcowboys1
1
TODAY
Quota and cap exemptions
Kirmudgeonly
8
TODAY
Bain gone
Trojan Horse
44
TODAY
New disciplinary rules
B0NES
20
TODAY
Josh Rourke
Deadcowboys1
1
TODAY
Fantasy Rugby League Competition
Pantherfax12
1
TODAY
Captain Mac
Dr Dreadnoug
9
TODAY
Mkm pitch
UllFC
6
TODAY
Sky coverage
ninearches
7
TODAY
Redvee Update
ratticusfinc
11
TODAY
New disciplinary rules
Pumpetypump
5
TODAY
New Disciplinary Points System
Zig
11
TODAY
Fantasy Rugby League Competition
Pantherfax12
1
TODAY
Fantasy Rugby League
Pantherfax12
1
TODAY
New walk out build up song
Scarlet Pimp
63
TODAY
New Disciplinary rules
leeds owl
18
TODAY
Who do we want and who can we get
BoredWiganer
5
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
789
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
1502
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
1604
Ben Lam Leaves Dragons..
1417
New Roles for HULL KR...
1362
Jet2 has signed a major sponso..
1505
Thirkill and Hood complete Hul..
1630
Captains Challenge for Televis..
1768
England Women Las Vegas train-..
1884
Opening Championship and Leagu..
2018
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
3364
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
2307
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
2785
England's Women Demolish The W..
2523
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
2963


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!