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Re: Richard Owen : Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:07 pm  
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Whether it is one incident or two the statement could have been worded better to remove any doubt either way.


The wording of the statement seems fair enough to me, mate.
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Re: Richard Owen : Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:32 pm  
Major Jizz-fest over on the Wakey board. All things concerning RO and Probiz sponsorship (with added negativity) on there folks.
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Re: Richard Owen : Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:16 pm  
Daft lad goes out and has a few beers and gets into a scuffle shocker .
The above comment is not aimed at the current subject of this thread .

BUT .

How many of the people that are lining up to cast stones at Cas and Mr Owen if the rumours are even anywhere close to being true are guilty of such behaviour themselves ?

I am . Therefore I will not (as much as I would love to ) be involving myself in and slating of either the club or the player .

It ain't uncommon for lads to get involved in a fracas on nights out /take drugs / have an affair/ drink and drive / etc etc etc. There must be thousands of such incidents every night of the week . Some happen to involve people who are considered to be public figures .

Yes they should know better , but so should your average Joe .

We all make mistakes . I have made some of biblical proportion in my life .

Some people really need to lose their holier than thou attitude . The fall from those high horses can be very painful so I hear .

Ditto regarding Hull .



PS THIS IS JUST MY OPINION ON THIS SUBJECT . IT IS NOT ME HAVING A LOVE IN WITH THE FIVE FINGERED INBREDS FROM UP THE ROAD
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Re: Richard Owen : Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:26 pm  
Tigerade wrote:
Major Jizz-fest over on the Wakey board. All things concerning RO and Probiz sponsorship (with added negativity) on there folks.

In fairness its not all of them mostly just the usual suspects, some wakey posters are being objective.

les-goose wrote:
Devils advocate - how do you know what he was drinking could have been Lemonade or Coke or Britvic soft drink.As someone whos turn it has been to drive on a night out its not the first time I have done that.How do you know the other guy has not been looking for a go with someone and backed the wrong horse.We dont know the facts so until we do lets be carefull what we say.Lets also face it we have in the past/present had Wakey players with a chequred past.



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Why are we bothered? He plays for Cas. It's their business how they handle their own disciplinary.

Police investigation is another thing, but no one realy knows what's happened there so can' see point in speculating yet.




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Nothing immoral at all.
I would imagine a good percentage of supporters are self employed or directors of businesses and use the of an accountant and the accountant will ensure they are tax efficient.


Lets not have another slanging match just because a few of the wakefield fans are eaten up by bitterness towards us. We have some that are just as bad.
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Re: Richard Owen : Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:31 am  
[quote="BaldRick"]Daft lad goes out and has a few beers and gets into a scuffle shocker .
The above comment is not aimed at the current subject of this thread .
BUT .
How many of the people that are lining up to cast stones at Cas and Mr Owen if the rumours are even anywhere close to being true are guilty of such behaviour themselves ?
I am . Therefore I will not (as much as I would love to ) be involving myself in and slating of either the club or the player .
It ain't uncommon for lads to get involved in a fracas on nights out /take drugs / have an affair/ drink and drive / etc etc etc. There must be thousands of such incidents every night of the week . Some happen to involve people who are considered to be public figures .
Yes they should know better , but so should your average Joe .
We all make mistakes . I have made some of biblical proportion in my life .
Some people really need to lose their holier than thou attitude . The fall from those high horses can be very painful so I hear .

Ditto regarding Hull .


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Re: Richard Owen : Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:55 am  
All seems reasonable to me:

There is an investigation in law ongoing - therefore that is being respected with privacy and that is right and proper.

Secondly, regardless of if Richie is charged (which he isnt yet and being charged is still an acre away from being convicted or in fact guilty bear in mind) he has admitted and the club have sanctioned him becuase guilty or not, he has breached a proprtion of his responsibilities and as such a sanction is warranted.

Without judging on the rights and wrongs, I have had my say on the thread already abotu this - I fail to see in a society that has an innocent until proven guilty justice system what anyone else wants to see? Civic justice is doing its thing, but regardless of that the club has moved quickly to punish a player and he has moved quickly to be contrite and apologise and say as much as he can for the moment.

Seems a very positive position at the moment, door still open if some allegation is proved for further action/statement. End of story.
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Re: Richard Owen : Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:01 am  
BaldRick wrote:
Daft lad goes out and has a few beers and gets into a scuffle shocker .
The above comment is not aimed at the current subject of this thread .

BUT .

How many of the people that are lining up to cast stones at Cas and Mr Owen if the rumours are even anywhere close to being true are guilty of such behaviour themselves ?

I am . Therefore I will not (as much as I would love to ) be involving myself in and slating of either the club or the player .


:CLAP: :CLAP: :CLAP:

BaldRick wrote:
Some people really need to lose their holier than thou attitude . The fall from those high horses can be very painful so I hear .


:CLAP: :CLAP:

BTW:- I wonder what username "G.Price Sandal Wildcat Fan Club" is using these days!!
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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....

......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......

big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'

chissitt wrote:
Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:


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Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.


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The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas


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The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague


Danril wrote:
Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.


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Re: Richard Owen : Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:12 am  
bigalf wrote:
BaldRick wrote:
Daft lad goes out and has a few beers and gets into a scuffle shocker .
The above comment is not aimed at the current subject of this thread .

BUT .

How many of the people that are lining up to cast stones at Cas and Mr Owen if the rumours are even anywhere close to being true are guilty of such behaviour themselves ?

I am . Therefore I will not (as much as I would love to ) be involving myself in and slating of either the club or the player .


:CLAP: :CLAP: :CLAP:

BaldRick wrote:
Some people really need to lose their holier than thou attitude . The fall from those high horses can be very painful so I hear .


:CLAP: :CLAP:

BTW:- I wonder what username "G.Price Sandal Wildcat Fan Club" is using these days!!

He was using trinitarianwf2 but since i pointed out it was obvious it was still him using a different name he hasn't been on since.
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Re: Richard Owen : Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:35 am  
mdean wrote:
Without judging on the rights and wrongs, I have had my say on the thread already abotu this - I fail to see in a society that has an innocent until proven guilty justice system what anyone else wants to see?


I think you've summed it up well; the club appear to have done everything they can reasonably do at this stage.

As for the bit in bold - has anyone called for anything more? I don't see a great deal of moralistic outrage about this case and from what I've read, apart from reasonable comments about the follishness of young men in drink, there doesn't seem to be a mob baying for blood.

It reminds me a bit of our own handling of the Gregg Johnson case last season; he was subject to a police investigation and rightly, the club didn't apply any sanctions until that investigation was concluded - when it was and it found him guilty of a serious assault, he was dismissed.
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Re: Richard Owen : Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:03 pm  
[quote="BaldRick"]Daft lad goes out and has a few beers and gets into a scuffle shocker .
The above comment is not aimed at the current subject of this thread .

BUT .

How many of the people that are lining up to cast stones at Cas and Mr Owen if the rumours are even anywhere close to being true are guilty of such behaviour themselves ?

I am . Therefore I will not (as much as I would love to ) be involving myself in and slating of either the club or the player .

It ain't uncommon for lads to get involved in a fracas on nights out /take drugs / have an affair/ drink and drive / etc etc etc. There must be thousands of such incidents every night of the week . Some happen to involve people who are considered to be public figures .

Yes they should know better , but so should your average Joe .

We all make mistakes . I have made some of biblical proportion in my life .

Some people really need to lose their holier than thou attitude . The fall from those high horses can be very painful so I hear .

Ditto regarding Hull .



:CLAP: :CLAP: :CLAP: And there speaks the voice of reason!
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