Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:41 am  

The story has made the OZ press http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5886215484

The story has made the OZ press http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5886215484

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:45 am  

RFL spokesman John Ledger wrote: The behaviour of club supporters is one of our considerations in the licensing process. It would be wrong to say Castleford getting a licence or not may hinge on this but the fans need to be aware they are doing the club no favours. This kind of behaviour would not get a favourable tick in the RFL's consideration of Super League licences. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/georgeriley/ ... _call.html

RFL spokesman John Ledger wrote: The behaviour of club supporters is one of our considerations in the licensing process. It would be wrong to say Castleford getting a licence or not may hinge on this but the fans need to be aware they are doing the club no favours. This kind of behaviour would not get a favourable tick in the RFL's consideration of Super League licences. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/georgeriley/ ... _call.html

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:47 am  

wakeyrule wrote:

Yes I heard homophobic taunts yelled at GT by some wakey 'fans' - I also heard other fans telling them to shut up, and it stopped straight away. No chants.

I don't personally have a problem with shouting abuse at refs, as long as it's not foul and abusive or based on any kind of prejudice (I can only say this now that Ashley Rhino Klein has gone), it's part of the game.

Likewise banter - as long as it's humourous. Take the linesman - calling him a skinny whatever is not funny, but chanting 'who ate all the pies' at him got me chuckling!

This fine ought to be a wake-up call to fans. They can get their club into serious trouble, and if they want their cllub to survive they MUST act responsibly. We all need to police ourselves, and we should all be prepared to point out any trouble causers to stewards (except at KR, where the stewards ARE the trouble causers)

Personally, I hope Cas fail in their appeal BUT that the RFL quietly drop the 40K fine, on condition that Cas don't tell anyone, just to get the message across without killing the club.

So basically its ok as long as you find it funny?

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:51 am  

Aldy wrote: The story has made the OZ press http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5886215484 It's all over the media this morning. Can't help thinking it's another nail in the coffin of our licence.

Aldy wrote: The story has made the OZ press http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5886215484 It's all over the media this morning. Can't help thinking it's another nail in the coffin of our licence.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:57 am  

The RFL have set a precedent with this ruling and fine, to be consistent, any club that has fans that chant abuse of a personal nature must be fined equally. If Gareth Thomas hears abuse at any other ground, he has a duty to inform the authorities (or press) immediately or, alternatively, the RFL should send representatives to every RL game played this weekend to keep an ear out for any abuse and act accordingly.

No right thinking fan condones abuse but this does seem rather convenient for the RFL to make an example of Cas (given the the connection with Stonewall, it was an open goal for them). What is to stop any rival fans going into a ground and aiming abuse in the hope of getting that club fined?

...and let us be clear here, the club would not have been fined had GT not said anything post match.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:00 am  

McLaren_Field wrote: This article by George Riley at the BBC would tend to suggest that the player has actually done anything but "go on a big offensive"... QUOTE Journalist in 'bigging up player they have an EXCLUSIVE interview with later in the week' shocker...

McLaren_Field wrote: This article by George Riley at the BBC would tend to suggest that the player has actually done anything but "go on a big offensive"... QUOTE Journalist in 'bigging up player they have an EXCLUSIVE interview with later in the week' shocker...

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:05 am  

Mintball wrote:

So, according to this response, racist chanting would be acceptable to you then, if it was chanted at someone with "a weak spot" on that subject? What about bananas on the pitch, Bonzo – and the others who applauded?

Race is completely different to sexual preference... to be honest it's more offensive that you throw the two together as if abusing someone because of their origins is the same as taking the mickey out of somebody's personal life.

We've all said the abuse is wrong, but it is commonplace at all grounds, and for the RFL to single out Cas is both too easy and convenient

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:23 am  

danny boy1 wrote:

It's an absolute disgrace that the club have to suffer for what a handful of mindless morons chant at a game, how on earth could they have stopped it? The club do tell supporters not to swear or abuse anyone, but unless they make supporters wear gags at every game, there's little that can be done.

I don't like to hear abusive chanting at games, but it goes on at every ground I've ever been to whether it's because a player is fat, thin, ginger, has big ears or a big nose or maybe has one eye, but why is it just because a player is gay, it's suddenly blown out of all proportion and a national media story.

I've also been told that such chants have been an issue at other grounds, but rather unsuprisingly nothing has come of them.

I hope you are happy Mr Thomas, you've certainly made a name for yourself in rugby league, but for all the wrong reasons and certainly not on the field of play, where you should have been doing your talking!!!!

what on earth are your two pathetic brain cells doing telling you to say that?!

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:38 am  

Mintball wrote:

So, according to this response, racist chanting would be acceptable to you then, if it was chanted at someone with "a weak spot" on that subject? What about bananas on the pitch, Bonzo – and the others who applauded?

I was applauding in agreement that the fine is ridiculous; in acknowledgement of the fact that chants aimed at players (whether right or wrong and simply from a small minority) are part and parcel of just about any spectator sport; that the club have been made an example of due to being one the RFL would rather see out of Super League; and that the club are fully justified in making an appeal.

It in no way means that I condone homophobic or racist chanting, which is unacceptable, in the same way as fattist and questioning of parentage remarks are. Incidentally the latter occur week in week out and nothing is ever said about them. As usual it's one rule for one, and a different rule for another.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:22 am  

We're discussing the homophobia story on 5live after 11
George Riley again.