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Re: Wakey Planning Permission : Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:41 pm  
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Shouldn't that say 'You're Spelling is shocking' :wink:


Why should it say "you are spelling is shocking"? :?
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Re: Wakey Planning Permission : Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:04 pm  
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Why should it say "you are spelling is shocking"? :?
Oh hello are you talking to me again now. :wink:
But indeed you are correct it should read 'Your spelling is shocking' :wink:
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Re: Wakey Planning Permission : Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:20 pm  
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Anyone who thinks that one piddling RL club can force the RFL and 13 other RL LTD companies to play against them week in and week out is living in cloud cuckoo land.


Of course one club and it's legal team could force exactly that if they could prove the actions of the RFL and the other 13 clubs to ne acting illegally - both restricting that piddling clubs right to trade and it's employees the right to work.

Let's get this straight, despite what you seem to think the RFL/SL is nothing in the eyes of the law. It's rules and regulations are nothing but a gentlemans agreement n a par with the rules and regs of a local darts league - nothing more If you think otherwise and you clearly do then I fear for you.
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Re: Wakey Planning Permission : Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:24 pm  
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This sounds like good plan although it has 1 small hitch any club taking the RFL to court cannot play in any if its comp's.
IF you take the RFL to court then you as a club need to find another sport to play.
This was one of the main reasons Wigan didnt kick up more of a stink the other year when they got a major slapping over the salary cap.
THe RFL have the clubs more over a barrel then you seem to think.


A major slapping as you put it is hardly the same as a Ltd company being forced to go bust. Had Wigan been relegated due to the loss of points do you honestly think they would have accepted demotion and 4 years in the wilderness at best or going out of business completely at worse - come off it.
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Re: Wakey Planning Permission : Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:30 pm  
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The RFL rules for a licence are clear and approved by all the clubs. The licence criteria are approved by all. If the RFl comply by their own rules then a club protesting about a decision after it has been made will fail. The team slected to go down wil be relegated.


So where have you got that from - oh I know you just made it up. If all three clubs get grounds and thus tick all the criteria then by the games own laws they cannot be relegated. No one from the RFL/SL has said that a club will definitely be promoted, they have said they will be looking at the possibility of promoting and relegating a club - look at the word possibility.

There is no possibility if the clubs hit there targets by 2012, certainly not according to the franchise rules.
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I think you will all find the RFL are not removing anyone's ability to trade, They will be only be moving them from SL into The Championship, this does not stop them from trading.
And while I don't agree with 1 of the 3 getting kicked it will be there own fault, we have all vexed about for far too long with empty promises. The grounds should be up we have all had long enough .


Absolute rubbish. For a start we are all I assume talking about the three clubs getting there grounds. I certainly accept that if Trinity don't get the ground we are down thouh even then you could still challenge it. What we are talking about here is the idea that some have that even if all three clubs get a ground one will still bite the dust. It's this last bit that is in question and which is easily challenged.

If a club or company which is what they actually are meets all there requirements needed to trade in SL but is still culled to allow another company in then this is undoubtedly a restriction on their ability to trade and an unfair one in the eyes of the REAL law.

Are you seriously suggesting that the removal of a guaranteed near one million pounds a year from SKY alone won't have a catastrophic effect on the business - one that will almost certainly lead to bankruptcy for the club and full scale redundancies.

I can assure you it will and any BOD will be obliged to fight this decision on behalf of the shareholders. RL is not a magical world where the rules of real life don't exist, a shareholder or an employee of Wakefield, Cas or Salford has exactly the same rights as if the company in question was Tesco or Rolls Royce.

The fact is that the RFL/SL can set up any rules it likes, but it has no power at all to enforce them - only a court can do that.
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Re: Wakey Planning Permission : Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:49 pm  
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A major slapping as you put it is hardly the same as a Ltd company being forced to go bust. Had Wigan been relegated due to the loss of points do you honestly think they would have accepted demotion and 4 years in the wilderness at best or going out of business completely at worse - come off it.
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Re: Wakey Planning Permission : Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:50 am  
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Shouldn't that say 'You're Spelling is shocking' :wink:


It should, but it matters not :wink:
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The fact is that the RFL/SL can set up any rules it likes, but it has no power at all to enforce them - only a court can do that.


Except, of course, that the club in question has to agree to certain conditions in order to play in any competition. Before we start getting all high and mighty about real law, can I just remind you that despite all equality laws passed prior to the official recognition of professionalism in Rugby Union, the Rugby Football Union could force clubs under their jurisdiction not to play on RL grounds, not to play RL teams, not to play ex-RL players, not to employ people who had been involved with RL in any way.
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