Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:23 pm  

bren2k wrote:

For the final time, for the hard of thinking - I have a problem with a New Zealander playing for England; I don't give a rat's ar5e who he plays for. Wazzock.

Post in the should chase play for england thread then and not in the well done rangi chase thread.

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:26 pm  

pyeman wrote:

Post in the should chase play for england thread then and not in the well done rangi chase thread.

My sentiments exactly.

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:31 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Georgie - I think I responded to the orginal post by expressing my bafflement at the award; I remain baffled by it, as did Rangi by the look of his spaced out expression during the post-match.

But the thread's simply intended to congratulate him on receiving it... that's why it's headed "Well done Rangi" Surely any discussion on the subject should go elsewhere.

bren2k wrote:

If you want the discussion moved to the other thread, talk to your mods - I can't help you there.

Sorry, I've read the AUP. I'm not even going to begin to do anything that could be interpreted as criticising the moderation process. You can help us all by posting on the appropriate thread, however.

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:52 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Some of you lot have got a bigger chip on your collective shoulders than WTW fans, and that takes some doing!

Once again - this has got naff all to do with Castleford.

HTH.

Okay, it's got nothing to do with Castleford. So let's stretch the empirical evidence to breaking point and assume that it's nothing to do with Castleford. So where does that leave us? It leaves us with a vociferous group of Rangi Chase nay-sayers, most of who (quite coincidentally) also appear to also be Wakey fans. Fine.

I'd like to ask, therefore, how you feel about (say) Maurie Fa'asavalu? Or Danny Brough? Or Anthony Minicello? In fact let's widen the debate - how do you feel about Greg Rusedski? Kevin Pietersen? Craig Keiswetter? The list goes on...

In terms of representative football, Rangi Chase has turned out (afaik) for the NZ Maoris and the Exiles. Now I don't know how the feeling is generally but to me the Exiles are nothing more than a feeble attempt to give England a decent game wrapped in a spin of RFL marketing bull. Okay, by definition playing for them means you weren't born in England, but that just brings me to the Maoris. I've got no desire to demean or belittle the indigenous people of NZ, but the fact is that playing for the Maoris is a cultural, not a nationalistic thing. I doubt anyone in the world is more proud than Rangi himself of his Maori roots, but global politics is such that being a Maori doesn't define a national identity, simply a cultural one.

So Rangi's already turned out for a team which ties him to his cultural heritage (good on him) and a side dreamed up by the marketeers at Red Hall. And somehow that's worse than Broughy turning out for Scotland AND England? Or Minicello deciding he's Aussie AND Italian?

Come off it!

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:44 pm  

bren2k wrote:

You know as well as I do that if the Kiwi's would have had him, he'd have played for them; as he said not long ago, it was his boyhood dream. Funny how he only started supping pints of bitter in a Union Jack waistcoat AFTER his country of origin overlooked him again, don't you think?

His selection is a joke to just about everyone outside of Cas and if he hadn't been a Cas player, it would have been a joke to most of you too; not Fully of course, who can prove his credentials by quoting his own posts on an internet message board.

I'll take that as an apology.

You know when Bren has been proven wrong when he starts making sarcastic comments.

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:35 pm  

Disco wrote:

Okay, it's got nothing to do with Castleford. So let's stretch the empirical evidence to breaking point and assume that it's nothing to do with Castleford. So where does that leave us? It leaves us with a vociferous group of Rangi Chase nay-sayers, most of who (quite coincidentally) also appear to also be Wakey fans. Fine.

I'd like to ask, therefore, how you feel about (say) Maurie Fa'asavalu? Or Danny Brough? Or Anthony Minicello? In fact let's widen the debate - how do you feel about Greg Rusedski? Kevin Pietersen? Craig Keiswetter? The list goes on...

In terms of representative football, Rangi Chase has turned out (afaik) for the NZ Maoris and the Exiles. Now I don't know how the feeling is generally but to me the Exiles are nothing more than a feeble attempt to give England a decent game wrapped in a spin of RFL marketing bull. Okay, by definition playing for them means you weren't born in England, but that just brings me to the Maoris. I've got no desire to demean or belittle the indigenous people of NZ, but the fact is that playing for the Maoris is a cultural, not a nationalistic thing. I doubt anyone in the world is more proud than Rangi himself of his Maori roots, but global politics is such that being a Maori doesn't define a national identity, simply a cultural one.

So Rangi's already turned out for a team which ties him to his cultural heritage (good on him) and a side dreamed up by the marketeers at Red Hall. And somehow that's worse than Broughy turning out for Scotland AND England? Or Minicello deciding he's Aussie AND Italian?

Come off it!

Who said it was worse than any of those things?

The old 'is it because I is from Cas?' routine had already been stretched to breaking point and you've just taken it into the realms of ridiculousness.

How many times do I have to tell you that an objection to non-English people playing for England is not a criticism of the team they happen to play their club football for?!

Really, you're just making yourself look thick.

p.s Georgie - once again, I'm just responding to the discussion; if your mods think it should take place in the other thread, I'm sure they'll tidy things up.

Re: Well done Rangi : Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:49 am  

bren2k wrote:

Who said it was worse than any of those things?

The old 'is it because I is from Cas?' routine had already been stretched to breaking point and you've just taken it into the realms of ridiculousness.

How many times do I have to tell you that an objection to non-English people playing for England is not a criticism of the team they happen to play their club football for?!

Really, you're just making yourself look thick.

p.s Georgie - once again, I'm just responding to the discussion; if your mods think it should take place in the other thread, I'm sure they'll tidy things up.

Ok ill play along if you point us to the threads you and your politically correct friends condemed in such a vocal way previous non engilsh born player selected??

Re: Well done Rangi : Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:13 am  

Well done Goldie http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1860 We await the arrival of a certain Wakey poster.

Well done Goldie http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1860 We await the arrival of a certain Wakey poster.

Re: Well done Rangi : Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:18 am  

bigalf wrote: Well done Goldie http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1860 We await the arrival of a certain Wakey poster. Is that a general well done on his performance or a well done for actually completing a game without attempting to end someones career ?

bigalf wrote: Well done Goldie http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1860 We await the arrival of a certain Wakey poster. Is that a general well done on his performance or a well done for actually completing a game without attempting to end someones career ?

Re: Well done Rangi : Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:20 am  

bensbag wrote:

Is that a general well done on his performance or a well done for actually completing a game without attempting to end someones career ?

This is hilarious, the bitterness and jealousy of seeing Castleford players playing International rugby is driving them insane. Long may it continue