Why would you waste money applying for a visa if cas aren't willing to sell at a price you're willing to pay?

But you'd clearly enquire about the player first see if he's happy to come to 'x' club and if his current club would be willing to accept an offer of what ever if we can get a visa for the player first. Then you'd go about applying for the visa obviously why would you waste money on attempting to get the player a visa if his current club aren't even willing to let him move on?

That's not the same as agreeing terms though, is it, which is what you said?

They could of quite easily agreed terms basically at the same time as they inquired about Chase. If you all want to believe IM then do so, but it's more than likely that your club are trying to get more money out of us if the visa does come through.

I like how Hull fans have transmogrified Adam Pearson's arrogant approach to buying success, into other clubs cynically seeing them as a cash cow; they're having the same conversation on their board about WTW and Kyle Amor.

I didn't realise that other clubs were expected to sponsor Hull FC's newfound ambition by selling them players at below market value - perhaps Mr Pearson should get a 'top London legal team' to set us all straight?

Meanwhile, back in the real world, if a player is determined to leave and Hull are buying, then it's nothing other than good business to extract maximum value for that player. I'm sure Mr Pearson will get up to speed on all that stuff when he has a bit more experience under his belt.

I'm sure the multi-millionaire and very successful Mr Pearson is eternally grateful for your fine business advice.

Although it's not that common, if they really want someone they will pay.

Mike Stephenson, Dewsbury to Penrith circa 1972........

Looks like Hull have gone elsewhere for a halfback; www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... orth-swoop

Looks like Hull have gone elsewhere for a halfback; www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... orth-swoop

That's ok - I usually charge for this sort of stuff but since he's just starting out in SL, we'll consider this one pro-bono.

Quote I_am_Spartacus="I_am_Spartacus"Looks like Hull have gone elsewhere for a halfback; www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... orth-swoop'" Our 1st choice half back pairing was always holdsworth n chase so 1 down and 1 to go hopefully

Quote I_am_Spartacus="I_am_Spartacus"Looks like Hull have gone elsewhere for a halfback; www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... orth-swoop'" Our 1st choice half back pairing was always holdsworth n chase so 1 down and 1 to go hopefully

Quote I_am_Spartacus="I_am_Spartacus"Looks like Hull have gone elsewhere for a halfback; www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... orth-swoop'" Holdsworth was always going to be one of them. We still want Chase, but we do have a fall-back option if that one falls through

Quote I_am_Spartacus="I_am_Spartacus"Looks like Hull have gone elsewhere for a halfback; www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... orth-swoop'" Holdsworth was always going to be one of them. We still want Chase, but we do have a fall-back option if that one falls through

Quote I_am_Spartacus="I_am_Spartacus"Looks like Hull have gone elsewhere for a halfback; www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... orth-swoop'" Nope HTH.

Quote I_am_Spartacus="I_am_Spartacus"Looks like Hull have gone elsewhere for a halfback; www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... orth-swoop'" Nope HTH.