Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:47 pm  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

He has. He played for NZ Maori against England this time last year; ie, played for his country and the nation that represents his ethnicity. I agree about Brough too. Players like Brough and Rangi devalue the international shirt, because it is something they can just pop in and out of when they feel like it.

The Maori are not classed as a representative side and therfore he has not played for NZ

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:00 pm  

bren2k wrote:

I did a bit of sick in my mouth then.

You say such lovely things, babe.

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:03 pm  

Hang on, if my memory serves me correctly didn't they turn out in the 2000 World cup with the legend that is Nikau (we should both agree on this) leading them out?

I can't remember the results or even if they qualified but i know Rauhihi and Kohe Love played in that side too.

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:24 pm  

wilde-robin wrote:

castleford can't produce quality english rep players so they throw in a maori /exile
pathetic

This is the funniest post in the history of this forum.

When did Hull KR last produce an international? Castleford have had two in the past three years!

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:28 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

In sporting terms yes

If i move to say Germany, i shouldn't rep for them in anything but if i have a child there, they should.


Otherwise it just becomes daft and you could potentially have a full 17 playing for England who had never graced the shores or had any connection at all going back thousands of years. It's just stupid, how good may a Tongan or Fijian side been now if they hadn't all defected to Australia?
It weakens and strengthens at the same time and the irony of it being 'more open' has made the sport more insular.

As i have said on other threads i have mixed feelings about rangi playing for england, and i think your view point that he shouldnt is a reasonable one. However why should say heighton who has never been to england before be ok but someone who lives here and want to become a citizen shouldnt?

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:31 pm  

Fully wrote:

I must have missed Michael Shenton being selected for England, Brett Ferres in the England squad mid-season, Joe Arundel, Jonathan Walker in England Knights this season, Joe Westerman being selected for England train-on squad, Adam Milner captaining the Academy to victory over Australia in Ashes.

I have no doubt that Milner, Clark and Craig Huby will also be up for rep honours in the future if they can get back fully fit (in CH's case) and continue their progression.

You forgot thompson playing for the academy.

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:31 pm  

wilde-robin wrote:

castleford can't produce quality english rep players so they throw in a maori /exile
pathetic

From a kr fan, really?

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:39 pm  

Stephen Kearney has said today that he considered Rangi for the NZ squad. If he had selected him, do you think Rangi would have said, "No thanks, Steve, I'm English now"? And therein lies the problem.

I can live with Reed, because he was born here, and I presume grew up in an English household and an English extended family. Not as keen on the other one.

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:52 pm  

wilde-robin wrote:

castleford can't produce quality english rep players so they throw in a maori /exile
pathetic

I think that fish you ate had a bit too much mercury in it.

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:35 pm  

Further to Slugger, here's the article on Sporting Life

Further to Slugger, here's the article on Sporting Life