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Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:51 pm  
Is there a more corrupt league in any sport than this superleague ?

I just wonder when they are going to start the financial aid to Cas, Wakey Salford , even to saints cos they posted a big loss this year ........................................ My advice for this one is "dont hold your breath".

It makes the championship more attractive if just to get away from these bent lovers
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Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:15 pm  
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I disagree about Harlequins having any effect about the amount of money Sky put into the game. Very very few Southerners watch the game. But I know plenty of people in Cas that would cancel their sports package if rugby league wasn't on. Some even cancel during the off season. So the fear of losing Northerners sky money is more of a factor than having a failing Southern team made up of Northerners with a sprinkling of Southerners and forgieners.


Living in the south now i can assure you that is not the case.
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Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:53 pm  
Like i said above they must all be watching it as home as some form of curiousity as they certainly are not watching it in a pub.

By the way its Hatfield in Hertfordshire not South Yorkshire.

Also ever seen a school RL game down south as there are no School teams in Hertfordshire or Bedfordshire. All ths developement in the south must be in South London as it certainly is not in North London. St Albans Stags i belive it is or Luton Vipers are both based at RU teams. development hey
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Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:04 pm  
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Is there a more corrupt league in any sport than this superleague ?

I just wonder when they are going to start the financial aid to Cas, Wakey Salford , even to saints cos they posted a big loss this year ........................................ My advice for this one is "dont hold your breath".

It makes the championship more attractive if just to get away from these bent lovers



i dropped on a guy who was a director of a now championship club when i was a player their. we got onto talking about the game and he said he had resigned has a director at the club recentley because the game was bent,im also lead to believe he was at one stage on the rfl council and again he resigned because in his words things were done under hand with hidden agenda`s.no suprise their then because thats what we all know anyhow,what worries me is how many more of these people that keep our championship clubs going are going to pull out and walk away because of richard lewis and his hangeronners pipe dream of expansion at all costs and forget the rest,this guy is convinced that the franchise system was brought in to save the likes of expansion clubs because in time and reduction in overseas players will almost certainly mean they spend years lingering at the bottom end of super league before finally one year they finish bottom and would be beyond saving,has it stands at the minute we still have promotion and relegation the only difference is that the rfl choose who goes up and down not results on the field.
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Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:07 pm  
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Like i said above they must all be watching it as home as some form of curiousity as they certainly are not watching it in a pub.


I can watch RL in my local.

Anyway, why does it matter whether they're watching at home or in the pub? Surely somebody watching it at home is more valuable to both Sky and the game as a whole. More people will see ads Sky sells, making them more valuable, making RL more profitable for Sky, encouraging Sky to keep hold of the rights.
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Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:53 pm  
But have you ever tried watching a match in a Pub down South. Almost impossible. Londoners would rather watch a division one game of football than put on RL. Indicates to me that those watching the match are actually Northerners living down south.


Could you please expand on this puzzle you have posted.

Would I be right in thinking what you are saying is it is only southerners who go into pubs?
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Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:39 am  
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The Challenge cup weekend has just been and gone, and was attended by fans from clubs....big and small. I attended and saw three Quins shirts and not a single London amateur club shirt. It isn't working down there, lets just accept it and move on.


Is that how success is judged these days


No but it's not a bad inidactor for the level of interest in the game...which we are always being told how massive and growing it is down there. Yet at one..if not the biggest and most traditional Rugby League event on the Calendar, this massive interest by Londoners just isn't there!

Well how shall we judge it? What actual measurable factor whall we use to judge if it is / has been successfull down there?....because every angle which the realists look at it isn't working! Ok we hear on tv a few persons saying how well it is taking off in the background...all the youngsters playing the game etc etc...yet there is nothing physically to support this suggestion, were there any London schools in the Schools finals before the Challenge Cup??? - NO!. Are these just pundits employed by, or saying the right things by SKY etc....possibly?

The factors that we use, are those that we can actually see.....not claims! actually physically see as facts.

Attendances at their home games - Poor, an not seemingly growing either!
Attendances at their away games - almost none existant!
Attendances at the big community finals Challenge cup or Grand Final - Rarely!
Financial viability - Clearly failing!

........So where is this most illusive of support? After 20 or 30 years and we are still not seeing it, it's not unreasonable to think that it doesn't exist and that it is just talked up hype and tripe!

For the few fans who do genuinely follow the Quins...credit to you. However, in terms of their eligibility for Superleague....all they do is tick a box for the almighty SKY, whose pocket our game now lives in!
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Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:53 am  
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No but it's not a bad inidactor for the level of interest in the game...


You're right, it's a terrible indicator.

Your straw poll was of what? People wearing Quins shirts at Wembley?

You know that people don't have to wear their club's colours at events (I don't tend to)? Not withstanding the fact that not all London RL fans support Quins (I don't), or the fact that not everybody buys a replica shirt...

Add to that that you will have seen only a tiny percentage of the people at Wembley that day...

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Well how shall we judge it? What actual measurable factor whall we use to judge if it is / has been successfull down there?....because every angle which the realists look at it isn't working! Ok we hear on tv a few persons saying how well it is taking off in the background...all the youngsters playing the game etc etc...yet there is nothing physically to support this suggestion, were there any London schools in the Schools finals before the Challenge Cup??? - NO!. Are these just pundits employed by, or saying the right things by SKY etc....possibly?

Well the number of Quins players brought through their academy – outstripping most other SL sides, would give ‘physical proof’ to this extremely valid point.

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The factors that we use, are those that we can actually see.....not claims! actually physically see as facts.

Perhaps you should start using some…

the_grobs wrote:
Attendances at their home games - Poor, an not seemingly growing either!

Valid point
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Attendances at their away games - almost none existant!

Absolutely not the Quins issue.
the_grobs wrote:
Attendances at the big community finals Challenge cup or Grand Final - Rarely!

Perhaps you should contact the RFL for actual facts and figures on the number of London based RL fans that attended the final… that would provide an actual number, rather than your ‘I saw three Cas shirts and one Quins shirt’ straw poll.
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Financial viability - Clearly failing!

Certainly, but I suspect only at the same rate as other SL clubs.

the_grobs wrote:
........So where is this most illusive of support? After 20 or 30 years and we are still not seeing it, it's not unreasonable to think that it doesn't exist and that it is just talked up hype and tripe!

It depends what you’re judging – support for Quins or support for RL in London?
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Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:02 am  
wire-quin wrote:
Could you please expand on this puzzle you have posted.

Would I be right in thinking what you are saying is it is only southerners who go into pubs?



In a family fortunes style survey of 100 London pubs who were asked to put the Superleague on the big screen on a Friday, or the NL1 on Thursday...the most popular answers experienced in our survey were..

1) No...there is some football/any football on, that we'd rather watch. 62%
2) No...what games that then? Is that different from Union then? 15%
3) No...we don't watch that in here. 14%
4) Of course I can mate, it's a right game 9%

These are peoples typical experiences that are expressed in previous posts.
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Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:28 am  
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In a family fortunes style survey of 100 London pubs who were asked to put the Superleague on the big screen on a Friday, or the NL1 on Thursday...the most popular answers experienced in our survey were..

1) No...there is some football/any football on, that we'd rather watch. 62%
2) No...what games that then? Is that different from Union then? 15%
3) No...we don't watch that in here. 14%
4) Of course I can mate, it's a right game 9%

These are peoples typical experiences that are expressed in previous posts.


Can you provide me/us with a link to this survey?

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