Re: Well done Rangi : Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:22 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

Where as the current rules are punishing the English players who could be playing in his place. You can twist this as much as you want, but the only reason you're supporting Chase playing for England is because he's a Castleford player. Let's say Vince Mellars decides to make himself available for England and as a result keeps out Joe Arundel for arguements sake, I don't believe for a minute that any of you will be coming on here saying "Well done Vince". Rangi Chase is a mercenary. If he has to no loyalty to his country, I can't see him having much for Castleford.

Funnily enough, I don't see any young/current English players kicking up a fuss about his selection?

If Vince Mellars was eligible, was good enough for selection (i.e. winning Man of Steel) and subsequently did well in a game in England colours I'd be the same as for Rangi.

I also didn't care when Fa'asavalu played for England. TBH, I'd love to have a few Islanders (or similar build) playing for England in the forwards. We might actually win something then.

Re: Well done Rangi : Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:24 pm  

Sesquipedalian wrote:

Only if you accept the tissue thin depth of sincerity that accompanies the statements he (& Rangi Chase) made when pledging their undying love for England and the Queen!

More fool you if you did but while people like you accept it there are others that walk away from the international game in despair.

And we still managed to sell-out Elland Rd didn't we? Obviously, Chase's unjustified selection had fans leaving the game in droves......

Re: Well done Rangi : Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:25 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

No, Chase knows that when he has to re-apply for a visa he has no chance due to his off field behaviour. So he knows his best option is not rock the boat, show stability by staying at Castleford (on a better contract) and apply for citizenship so that when a big club comes calling he won't have to re-apply for the visa. What better way to support this than by representing England? He knows he won't command the same money in the NRL. Even the most biased Castleford fans know this (even if they won't admit it publicly) and are going to make the most of having such a good player at the club for the next few seasons.

Or the most obsessed Wakefield fans who have nothing better to do than speculate, rumour-monger and make up rubbish about anything Castleford?

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:10 pm  

Chase was rubbish, they were all rubbish.

There is a reason Chase is in SL. SL is a second rate comp and he is a second rate player like almost all the overseas player in SL. That's not a dig at him he may well return to the NRL one day and stake his claim. He also took the field with a team full of second raters and the were all 100% British.

Only Morley who was once world class and Ellis who has managed to attain a decent standard as an NRL player can be considered exempt and in Morleys case that is in the past tense. How sad is that.

To blame Chase would be churlish in the extreme. He is not to blame for the state we find ourselves in. That lays at the feet of a weak RFL and greedy short termist clubs of which Cas and Wakey and the rest are guilty of being.

Until the Chases of this world are a rarity and not the rule we will continue as a nation to fail - and I say again that is not the fault of Chase who like the rest of his new team mates simply wasn't good enough.

Shame we had to go through the last few month to work that out when it was obvious from the start.

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:29 pm  

Well done Rangi!

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:15 pm  

Fully wrote:

And we still managed to sell-out Elland Rd didn't we? Obviously, Chase's unjustified selection had fans leaving the game in droves......

no we didnt 8000 empty seats

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:26 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

no we didnt 8000 empty seats

Elland Road capacity is 38,304 the attendance was 34,174...and the top tier in the East was closed which covers that 4000 so there wasn't 8000 empty seats HTH

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:45 pm  

fun time frankie wrote: no we didnt 8000 empty seats Wrong Link I love it when people get their facts right!

fun time frankie wrote: no we didnt 8000 empty seats Wrong Link I love it when people get their facts right!

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:34 pm  

vastman wrote:

To blame Chase would be churlish in the extreme. He is not to blame for the state we find ourselves in. That lays at the feet of a weak RFL and greedy short termist clubs of which Cas and Wakey and the rest are guilty of being.

You cannot seriously be comparing the policies of Wakefield and Castleford in terms of recruitment and development of youth can you? The two are poles apart and as for short-termism; Chase - 2015, Clark - 2017, Owen 2015, Milner 2014. Hardly a sign of short-termism.

Re: Well done Rangi : Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:34 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

no we didnt 8000 empty seats

The maximum capacity allowed was sold out. And I suspect demand would have been significantly higher had the remaining tiers been opened.