Re: unlucky : Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:13 am  

Only managed to watch the highlights

I would say cas probably deserved the win but the way saints can win whilst pretty much being the second best team is fantastic.

Luck has certainly gone saints way in the last two weeks and no one can argue with that but no one can argue that saints are back to their entertaining best and I'm so glad to see them performing how I have always loved them to perform.

Good luck to cas for the rest of the season. I have always had a soft spot for them And have always been my second favourite team.

Re: unlucky : Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:52 am  

saintcj wrote:

Only managed to watch the highlights

I would say cas probably deserved the win but the way saints can win whilst pretty much being the second best team is fantastic.

Luck has certainly gone saints way in the last two weeks and no one can argue with that but no one can argue that saints are back to their entertaining best and I'm so glad to see them performing how I have always loved them to perform.

Good luck to cas for the rest of the season. I have always had a soft spot for them And have always been my second favourite team.

won the first half lost the second, brill game

certainly got them firing on all cylinders now

Re: unlucky : Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:30 am  

snowie wrote:

won the first half lost the second, brill game

certainly got them firing on all cylinders now

agree with you there snowie mate powell has done wonders since he became coach and although some may scoff at this but i wouldn't be surprised if we stole a piece of silverware from under the big clubs noses, i reckon the cc is our best chance and i wouldn't be surprised if it is a cas/saints final and i'll be shouting for saints doubly against leeds as after enjoying tonights game so much i want it to be a cas/saints final the only difference being a scoreline in our favour

shame how things are going on your end at the mo snowie but i wont dwell on it as i know you are unhappy enough about it and quite rightly so after what you and your fellow volunteers have done at the ground now this is the bit i am gonna dwell on.

last year our club called for volunteers to help refurb the ground and plenty turned up although a couple of your fans came on casforum to bag the club for it as far as i'm concerned it showed the club has true fans who love their club as well as glory fans
then wakey in a time of trouble called for volunteers and you and plenty of your fellow fans came forward to show you too have true fans as well as glory fans and i think both sets of fans should be applauded for what they did but i also think thnigs like this should be highlighted more, i dont know if there were any sky cameras at our ground filming the volunteers working, did any of yours see any there filming you? if not maybe there should have been, have a decent sized slot on boots n all or backchat and discuss it and highlight the fact of what true fans are willing to do for their club.

just like to finish this post by saying if both out clubs had more fans like you and your fellow volunteers and our volunteers both clubs would be a hell of a lot better of than they have been over last few years

Re: unlucky : Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:25 pm  

You can't say the last call cost Cas the match, because that then negates all other wrong calls prior to that, to being less important. But this is a pure lack of understanding with regards to temporal theory.

If you look at the last call of the match and say well if that had not been given, Saints would have lost.

Then Saints fans can say well what about the ball steal earlier in the match or the ripped balls from Walmsley. You then respond by saying well that was earlier on in the match, as if the rest of the match would have followed in the same fashion still lead to the Turner incident with the same points on the board.

But time does not work like that, if Manu gets the ball steal or Walmsley gets a penalty for 2 on 1 tackles. Then the Turner incident even never occurs, you follow a different temporal path.

So the last call is not the crucial call, it's just another call which can lead to 1000's of multiple outcomes. Even if the Turner call would have been given to Cas as a knock on, there was over 2 minutes. This would have been enough time for 2 sets of 6.

People just don't understand time lines and temporal physics, this is why they place far too much importance on the last thing to occur and deem all other things prior to this as some what less, when in fact all decisions have equal weighting and equal unknown outcomes. You can't take one call in isolation. If one call is up for grabs so are the rest.

Re: unlucky : Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:28 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

You can't say the last call cost Cas the match, because that then negates all other wrong calls prior to that, to being less important. But this is a pure lack of understanding with regards to temporal theory.

mate all this pretentious crap is falling on a lot of deaf ears. We all understand that "things even themselves out" without you having to patronise us with a lesson on 'temporal theory' - just let us get angry about a bad call like most sport fans do. We lost, you won, so clearly we're gonna be a bit more begrudging to have a balanced conversation with you about the laws of averages or whatever

Re: unlucky : Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:30 pm  

It's not meant to be patronizing.

Re: unlucky : Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:46 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

It's not meant to be patronizing.

Yeah I know, but giving us lectures on laws of average and 'temporal theory' when really it's just a bunch of fans getting a bit irate over a call is just a little pointless.

Re: unlucky : Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:11 pm  

It was just meant to be a counter arguement to the ref robbed us. Other than simply saying no he didn't.

I thought given the way things stood at half time, I was expecting Cas to win that one to be honest.

I thought your forwards really dominated from minute 1. Even in the second half Saints steadied the ship in terms of our defense, but we kept spilling the ball and giving away penalties.
But Cas started to do similar mistakes as the game wore on.

It was a really good game and even with a few minutes to go I would have put my money on Cas to win, taking a drop goal to just eek out a few more minutes of the game.

Re: unlucky : Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:54 pm  

I have just watched my recording of last nights match, it was absolutely superb.
A credit to both teams, we are going to have a real battle to win ,when we (rhinos) visit the lane. I think powell in his aftermatch interveiw was brave enough to highlight the fact that what cas did in the first half they did the reverse in the second half.
Probably the turning point was the hauriki pass which was intercepted . One things for certain no team will bully the cas pack this season. You have some tough nuts in your pack.
As for saints, the signing of Walsh looks to be a masterstroke he really dictates play. It's his input that's probably upped saints performances this season.

Re: unlucky : Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:40 pm  

Backwoodsman wrote:

I have just watched my recording of last nights match, it was absolutely superb.
A credit to both teams, we are going to have a real battle to win ,when we (rhinos) visit the lane. I think powell in his aftermatch interveiw was brave enough to highlight the fact that what cas did in the first half they did the reverse in the second half.
Probably the turning point was the hauriki pass which was intercepted . One things for certain no team will bully the cas pack this season. You have some tough nuts in your pack.
As for saints, the signing of Walsh looks to be a masterstroke he really dictates play. It's his input that's probably upped saints performances this season.

To be fair, I thought Walsh looked a little shabby last night, certainly that first half your halves kept us guessing on every last play.