Re: Mathers gone to Wakefield : Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:33 pm  

pyeman wrote:

TURFEDOUT wrote:

Gronk! wrote:

casman2 wrote:

allowing him to play against us is a big mistake IMO

I think that just shows how much Cas think of him as a player.

Look at all the weak tacklers Wakefield have now: Mathers, Fox, Smith, Mariano (was in the top 10 missed tackles last season, possibly first without checking).

Is Mathers really that weak??

Missed less tackles than Wellens,Hodgson and Grix.

This maybe one of the occasions where stats dont tell the full story i remember several times where he missed very easy tackles, but more frustratingly he sometimes just watched players run round him making no attempt to stop them. His defensive positioning is not the best either.

However for all his defensive frailties the thing that annoyed me most was the constant errors i remember that for much (and maybe all) of the season he had the highest number of errors of any castleford player this combined with conceding quite alot of penalties for a back means he was often putting us on the back foot.

I dont necesarily think it was quantity that he missed, more the ones he missed cost us greatly.

Regarding Millwards comments, I would rather have Mathers as back up for full back than McGoldrick. The only advantage that McGoldrick has over Mathers is that he can cover many different positions

Re: Mathers gone to Wakefield : Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:35 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

Trojan Horse wrote:

Suprised with Moriano he is a good tackler what I have seen. He played with an injured hand/ wrist for last 3rd of season

2nd in the league in misses with 76 so I'd say it's a pretty consistant thing throughout the season with so many misses. First was Elliot Whitehead with 80.

Kyle Amor is 19th with 50 missed, and the only Cas player to make the list (surprisingly) is Adam Milner at 22 with 49 missed.

Give over fella, we spent 75% of our games defending last season it's no wonder some of our players are on that list.

Stats?

Re: Mathers gone to Wakefield : Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:54 pm  

I was there I know we did. But if you saw the last 3rd of seasons games you could see Moriano was struggling most weeks with his wrist. I'm not disputing the stats but trying to offer some reasoning for them.

Anyway back on topic. Mathers.

Solid SL player, adds depth. Let's see what he can do.

Are cas seriously signing Pryce?

Re: Mathers gone to Wakefield : Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:57 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

I was there I know we did. But if you saw the last 3rd of seasons games you could see Moriano was struggling most weeks with his wrist. I'm not disputing the stats but trying to offer some reasoning for them.

Anyway back on topic. Mathers.

Solid SL player, adds depth. Let's see what he can do.

Are cas seriously signing Pryce?

I was replying to Fully

Re: Mathers gone to Wakefield : Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:33 pm  

Sesquipedalian wrote:

Trojan Horse wrote:

I was there I know we did. But if you saw the last 3rd of seasons games you could see Moriano was struggling most weeks with his wrist. I'm not disputing the stats but trying to offer some reasoning for them.

Anyway back on topic. Mathers.

Solid SL player, adds depth. Let's see what he can do.

Are cas seriously signing Pryce?

I was replying to Fully

No problem. I will re-direct my post to fully then in the interest of bandwagon jumping .

Re: Mathers gone to Wakefield : Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:07 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Are cas seriously signing Pryce?

Really hope not - but wouldn't surprise me

Re: Mathers gone to Wakefield : Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:08 pm  

jourdmart wrote: who needs flankers? wrote: Says we are on the lookout for a centre. Surely Mathers must have been on a decent wage? Hopefully we can bring someone decent in. http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1948 Not Keith Senior, please..... Unfortately Hull KR may be his new club, not you. http://www.superleague.co.uk/article/se ... bins/24096 I can understand your dissapointment.

jourdmart wrote: who needs flankers? wrote: Says we are on the lookout for a centre. Surely Mathers must have been on a decent wage? Hopefully we can bring someone decent in. http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1948 Not Keith Senior, please..... Unfortately Hull KR may be his new club, not you. http://www.superleague.co.uk/article/se ... bins/24096 I can understand your dissapointment.

Re: Mathers gone to Wakefield : Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:57 pm  

kinleycat wrote: jourdmart wrote: who needs flankers? wrote: Says we are on the lookout for a centre. Surely Mathers must have been on a decent wage? Hopefully we can bring someone decent in. http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1948 Not Keith Senior, please..... Unfortately Hull KR may be his new club, not you. http://www.superleague.co.uk/article/se ... bins/24096 I can understand your dissapointment. Gutted

kinleycat wrote: jourdmart wrote: who needs flankers? wrote: Says we are on the lookout for a centre. Surely Mathers must have been on a decent wage? Hopefully we can bring someone decent in. http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1948 Not Keith Senior, please..... Unfortately Hull KR may be his new club, not you. http://www.superleague.co.uk/article/se ... bins/24096 I can understand your dissapointment. Gutted

Re: Mathers gone to Wakefield : Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:37 pm  

Sesquipedalian wrote:

Trojan Horse wrote:

I was there I know we did. But if you saw the last 3rd of seasons games you could see Moriano was struggling most weeks with his wrist. I'm not disputing the stats but trying to offer some reasoning for them.

Anyway back on topic. Mathers.

Solid SL player, adds depth. Let's see what he can do.

Are cas seriously signing Pryce?

I was replying to Fully

Perhaps you can point me in the direction of a) my post in this thread; b) the time I posted on this thread and c) the date I posted on this thread (aside from this one obviously) to which your reply centred around.

Maybe you lot should stop obsessing about me for once and look at who you're ACTUALLY responding to for once.

Re: Mathers gone to Wakefield : Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:47 pm  

Fully wrote:

Sesquipedalian wrote:

Trojan Horse wrote:

I was there I know we did. But if you saw the last 3rd of seasons games you could see Moriano was struggling most weeks with his wrist. I'm not disputing the stats but trying to offer some reasoning for them.

Anyway back on topic. Mathers.

Solid SL player, adds depth. Let's see what he can do.

Are cas seriously signing Pryce?

I was replying to Fully

Perhaps you can point me in the direction of a) my post in this thread; b) the time I posted on this thread and c) the date I posted on this thread (aside from this one obviously) to which your reply centred around.

Maybe you lot should stop obsessing about me for once and look at who you're ACTUALLY responding to for once.

Sorry Fully, my mistake I meant Gronk, no offence intended.