Re: Forget Newmarket : Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:57 pm  

And Wakey fans say that Cas fans are naive and being led by the nose by RW. On the basis of someone writing a letter saying the funding is in place they are all convinced it is. I will ask the question again what is the makeup of the funding to provide this £12/16m facility.

Re: Forget Newmarket : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:06 pm  

cas69 wrote:

And Wakey fans say that Cas fans are naive and being led by the nose by RW. On the basis of someone writing a letter saying the funding is in place they are all convinced it is. I will ask the question again what is the makeup of the funding to provide this £12/16m facility.

A bit different, York Court to my knowledge dont have a long history in failing to deliver on their promises unlike RW.

Whilst I have obviously not seen a copy of the letter, I would imagine there was more substance to it, then just we confirm the stadium is fully funded (I also understand it confirmed the stadium would be built before any units as well)

Re: Forget Newmarket : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:10 pm  

bigalf wrote:

Post or PM a copy and I will comment.

Ain't got a copy, suspect it might go up on the planning portal at some stage. I was just asking your view as you seem to have some knowledge of the planning process and construction and wanted an alternative view as to whether this changed your opinion on the question mark you had over the funding.

Re: Forget Newmarket : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:10 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

Whilst I have obviously not seen a copy of the letter, I would imagine

Re: Forget Newmarket : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:19 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

Ain't got a copy, suspect it might go up on the planning portal at some stage. I was just asking your view as you seem to have some knowledge of the planning process and construction and wanted an alternative view as to whether this changed your opinion on the question mark you had over the funding.

All I have seen is the submitted written "evidence statements" which seem to confirm the opposite. Come back when you have a copy.

Re: Forget Newmarket : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:21 pm  

bigalf wrote:

:DRUMMER:

Pity. You appear to have some knowledge of the process and I asked you genuinely for your view, but you decide to pick up on the way my post was phrased to take the pee.

Perhaps you can provide a reasoned response as to why you think the letter is not that important or wait until it is in the public domain and give your view then?

Re: Forget Newmarket : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:28 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

Pity. You appear to have some knowledge of the process and I asked you genuinely for your view, but you decide to pick up on the way my post was phrased to take the pee.

Perhaps you can provide a reasoned response as to why you think the letter is not that important or wait until it is in the public domain and give your view then?

How can I comment on something I have not seen?

Do I believe that at this moment (Now) the NM Stadium is fully funded? then No I don't - just as I would say at this moment in time GH is not fully funded, although some people would say it is (Subject to the sale of WR).

According to written evidence of the person who was speaking today (J Francis?) the projected Profit from the whole development will be £9,576,143. before any thing is taken by Yorkcourt. Will that fund a Stadium?

And I repeat Sir Rod:-

"My experience and expertise tells me that I will be able to procure support for the funding of the stadium and operational costs in a number of ways. I will seek grant funding support from avariety of sources via local government, local organisations and communities, local and national charities, regional, national and European funding schemes. TheCouncil is contributing £2m to the Trust which would be paid by the Trust toYorkcourt towards the construction costs of the stadium. The Trust will also seek to secure other funding support from the Sports Lottery Fund and the Football Trust"

So, is all the funding is in place?

Re: Forget Newmarket : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:38 pm  

bigalf wrote:

How can I comment on something I have not seen?

Do I believe that at this moment (Now) the NM Stadium is fully funded? then No I don't - just as I would say at this moment in time GH is not fully funded, although some people would say it is (Subject to the sale of WR).

So every comment you make is based on full sight of all information beforehand? Whilst the actual contents of the letter are not known to you or I, I have told you the gist of what was said and your comment above tells me that you don't believe the crux of what York Court have committed to writing. Time will tell if your right or not.

Re: Forget Newmarket : Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:46 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

Time will tell if your right or not.

Agreed! But do you know - right or wrong, I won't lose a minute of sleep.

Re: Forget Newmarket : Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:56 pm  

The Clans version of Fully Funded:-

"Cat is out of the Bag"!

The Clan wrote:

The funding from YCP is enough to build a stadium of the correct size and quality to satisfy the RFL criteria for a Grade A rating, but no more!

The funding brought in from grants etc will allow the stadium be built with extra facilities contained within the stands.

Without grant funding we can build 3 box standard stands with little more than toilets and food outlets accompanied by a main stand with hospitality, changing rooms etc.

With grant funding we can build a significantly better facility which has amenities, office space, gymnasiums ECT ECT ECT within all of the 4 stands. If Wakefield Stadium Trust are really successful in securing all the funding available there's a suggestion that the corners could be filled in.

There's also grant applications for further sporting facilities that will rest outside the stadium such as a full sized indoor pitch, 5-aside pitches, hockey pitch, 2nd Rugby pitch with its own dressing rooms and so on.

When YCP say they guarantee a fully funded stadium they mean the basic box standard stadium, when Sir Rodney Walker says we will also need Grants, he's talking about a stadium with bells, whistles, and a feathery balloon attached!