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Re: Crusaders Demise? : Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:34 pm  
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No. 2008 doesn't count. It's over THIS licence period.
But its is an average over 3 years.
And seeing as they wont know how everyone will finish in 2011.
Infact they used 2005,2006,2007 last time for that very same reason.
2008 figures were never used due to the announcment being in the middle of that season.
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Re: Crusaders Demise? : Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:39 am  
I agree last time it was over a three year period - going into administration also counted against a clubs appllication. I wonder if this will have disappeared from the criteria for a franchise next year.

As did being financially stable - i assume this means not being bank rolled by a director but i doubt it.
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Re: Crusaders Demise? : Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:25 am  
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It's quite obvious to everyone that Crusaders overspent last season, now they have gone into administration.



No its not and no they haven't. hth
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Re: Crusaders Demise? : Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:17 pm  
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But its is an average over 3 years.
And seeing as they wont know how everyone will finish in 2011.
Infact they used 2005,2006,2007 last time for that very same reason.
2008 figures were never used due to the announcment being in the middle of that season.


Yeah, that was last time as a way of determining the first licence period. THIS licence period is judged over 2009/2010 seasons.
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Re: Crusaders Demise? : Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:38 pm  
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Yeah, that was last time as a way of determining the first licence period. THIS licence period is judged over 2009/2010 seasons.


If its judged at all ............................... and not already preordained.

Just wondering if the crusaders administration will count as 2010 or be ignored cos the seasons over ......................................... answers on a superleague rule book (if such a thing exists)

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Re: Crusaders Demise? : Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:12 pm  
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Yeah, that was last time as a way of determining the first licence period. THIS licence period is judged over 2009/2010 seasons.
I belive you are incorrect but ill happily be proved wrong.
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Re: Crusaders Demise? : Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:01 pm  
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I belive you are incorrect but ill happily gather evidence to support my point and prove it.


Typo fixed.
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Re: Crusaders Demise? : Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:18 pm  
More confusion - it's still not clear what is happening.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-nort ... s-11726963
More confusion - it's still not clear what is happening.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-nort ... s-11726963
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Re: Crusaders Demise? : Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:43 pm  
Crusaders will remain and get a new franchise don't kid yourself anything else. Crusaders cash problems will not matter, if anything the rfl will bend over backwards to help them.

The expansion teams London, Catalans, Crusaders will not be allowed to fail in the next 4 years. Beyond that who knows but i can't see much change.

How this will affect the teams up for the chop goodness knows.

What is obvious is any team without the ground criteria will get the chop, so no new ground for us, wakey or salford will mean bye bye super league.
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Re: Crusaders Demise? : Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:11 am  
deeman forever Cas wrote:
The expansion teams London, Catalans, Crusaders will not be allowed to fail in the next 4 years. Beyond that who knows but i can't see much change


For what it's worth I no longer consider Catalans in the same bracket as Harlequins and Crusaders because they've built themselves a strong fan base and are a proven success story when it comes to expansion. One would also assume that they're financially solvent given the absence of any news reports claiming the contrary; something that can't be said about the other two.

It really does grate with me that we may be excluded from Super League from 2012 onwards at the expense of Crusaders and Harlequins who have, on multiple occasions in recent years, proven their inability to manage their finances; whilst we were one of only four Super League clubs to generate a profit in 2009. I also think Crusaders lack of local talent and Harlequins lack of fanbase put them even further behind our credentials assuming this is a level playing field.

Only time will tell, but I've said it quite a few times before that when the RFL are evaluating this batch of license applications, they'd do well to remember that there are other criteria besides having a fancy stadium or being an expansion club.
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