Nope. We both got in in 2008 by being one of the 14 best licence applications. Where we were before that, or how we got there, is irrelevant.

Very true mate.

You've got that very wrong in my opinion. A Championship Club will be told in March 2011 that they are in (if they fulfil the 5 criteria). Following that decision all other teams have to submit an application by April 2011. So Championship clubs will not be judged on the same criteria as SL clubs unless they apply in the April tranche. I think that will be the RFL get out of jail card to put Toulouse in having granted Widnes a licence in March.

I could'nt agree with you more mate,but I think that the RFL and SKY are looking for a scapegoat or to shaft a club somewhere's along the line. It should'nt be us or you, if it does happen the game will go backwards and not forward as they think it will.

RFL stick franchise up your ringpiece.

I don't think this changes anything in the real world - Salford, Wakey and Cas got their franchise last time round on promises of ground improvement or new stadia. Salford of course are confirmed moving, so that leaves Cas and Wakey.

We all knew then that if we were neither in a stadia, or actual tangible building work happening and a road map to completion - we would all be out on our backside and that still stands. So, the equation hasn't changed - with the exception of the brief dalliance over a possible share, then situ now is exactly as was the day after we were granted a franchise.

The only way I think we can stop BOTH clubs being outed in lieu of Toulouse and Widnes is BOTH building a stadium - if neither get theirs built, then I think we could seriously be in danger of losing both from the top flight...... Which is why I think Wakey were too quick to dismiss share discussions and studies, becuase now it is a straight foot race to pour the first concrete. I don't believe the WF economy will support 2 multi million development projects 3 Mway junctions apart in the same year - look at the funding hole and problems finishing the Wakey shopping centre?

So - this is now simply whoever lays a brick first wins in my opinion without bias towards either club.

Quote New stadiums or redevelopments of existing stadiums will only be taken into account if the RFL is satisfied that the stadium will be open or the redevelopment finished by the start of the 2012 season,"New stadiums or redevelopments of existing stadiums will only be taken into account if the RFL is satisfied that the stadium will be open or the redevelopment finished by the start of the 2012 season," the licensing guidelines state.'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/au ... per-league

Quote New stadiums or redevelopments of existing stadiums will only be taken into account if the RFL is satisfied that the stadium will be open or the redevelopment finished by the start of the 2012 season,"New stadiums or redevelopments of existing stadiums will only be taken into account if the RFL is satisfied that the stadium will be open or the redevelopment finished by the start of the 2012 season," the licensing guidelines state.'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/au ... per-league

Very nice... the stitch up continues

We have been paying RW good money (£90K/year by rumour), for the past few years with our 'meeting of the Superleague requirements for 2012' being his primary paid objective. There are now becoming less and less places for him to hide behind uninformative, 're-worded', contradictory or repeat statements.

In 2011 the application will not accept the words 'hoping to make a major announcment!'.

As the fans, we are here basically Sh*tting ourselves about where the axe will fall and whether it will come down to another teams bad luck.....or a bent RFL decision, which will ultimately rule us out or in.

Step forward Mr Wright and tell us what you have done to ensure that we don't find ourselves in such a position! Tell us exactly why (not how we hope) we will be successful.

The club needs to react to this with a detailed plan of when things will happen. Unless the build begins before the end of the year, there isn't a hope in hell of it being opened by 2012

=#0080FFGot anymore tips?

All i can say is why is it up to us to develop RL in france by inviting tolouse. I have a nasty thought that the RFL plan to lose both cas and wakey infavour of Tolouse and Widnes

I think in thier minds that in another 3 years time at least they will be able to lose a french team and still have represntation.

I do not understand the RFLs infatuation with taking the game across the length and breadth of this great land

I will be sorry to lose either cas or wakey, I'm afraid its squeaky bum time for the 2 clubs.

I also think its poor that the RFL have issued this statement. Is it to put pressure on those that have not complied fully with last times criteria????

Work will start in Spring according to Waystone and will be opened for the 2012 season. That gives us until the end of January 2012 to complete.

Roughly 44 weeks. Not sure how long it takes to construct a stadium though.