Re: richie matthers talking lies about cas through med : Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:20 am  

I am not sure what has gone on but there does seem to be a problem between Mathers and Milward.. out of interest was Mathers at Wigan when Milward was there?

Any way regardless I think the way Mathers was treated was disgusting - I am Cas through and through and I have stuck up for the club on many occassions however on this one I feel their actions are out of order. I hope this is not a sign of things to come with Milwards management style. By all mean I will be happy if he puts his foot down and makes the team more professional and he deals with unacceptable behaviour (take a bow Mr Owen and various others before him) but to freeze someone out without even trying to work with them is out of line.

So before people start to judge Richie think how you would feel if you went to work tomorrow and found you had a new boss who didn't like you and got rid of you before you had chance to prove your worth.

Re: richie matthers talking lies about cas through med : Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:47 am  

Well something behind the scenes must have happened. I am not saying that i know anything but it seems very odd.

An employer can not turn around and tell you - "right your off". That is basically unfair dismissal. An at very least is an industrial tribunual if not a full blown court case. As far as i am aware neither of these have happened.

Add to that the fact that RM himself has made no mention of potentially seeking the advice of the players union or GMB makes it all the more odd.

Would seem to me a scenario of "mutual consent from both parties" - which if thats the case begs you to ask the question what have either party done which they want to keep quiet.

Re: richie matthers talking lies about cas through med : Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:30 pm  

tropical1 wrote:

I am not sure what has gone on but there does seem to be a problem between Mathers and Milward.. out of interest was Mathers at Wigan when Milward was there?

Any way regardless I think the way Mathers was treated was disgusting - I am Cas through and through and I have stuck up for the club on many occassions however on this one I feel their actions are out of order. I hope this is not a sign of things to come with Milwards management style. By all mean I will be happy if he puts his foot down and makes the team more professional and he deals with unacceptable behaviour (take a bow Mr Owen and various others before him) but to freeze someone out without even trying to work with them is out of line.

So before people start to judge Richie think how you would feel if you went to work tomorrow and found you had a new boss who didn't like you and got rid of you before you had chance to prove your worth.

Mathers was not at Wigan when Milward was there. If you want an insight into how Milward treats players then read Kris Radlinskis book, or have a chat with Brian Carney if you get the chance. I'm no great fan of Mathers but I can believe everything he says about Millward.

Re: richie matthers talking lies about cas through med : Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:51 pm  

What did Radlinski put in his book?

Re: richie matthers talking lies about cas through med : Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:01 pm  

Towns88 wrote:

What did Radlinski put in his book?

Words and pictures

Re: richie matthers talking lies about cas through med : Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:03 pm  

BIGAL1 wrote:

Words and pictures

Just wondered if it compared to Sean Long's book about him getting in to bed with Basil and his wife!

Re: richie matthers talking lies about cas through med : Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:44 pm  

Towns88 wrote:

Just wondered if it compared to Sean Long's book about him getting in to bed with Basil and his wife!

Not read Rads book so can't help you, but i may just have a read if its going to be a bit mucky

Re: richie matthers talking lies about cas through med : Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:41 pm  

Hatfield tiger wrote:

Well something behind the scenes must have happened. I am not saying that i know anything but it seems very odd.

An employer can not turn around and tell you - "right your off". That is basically unfair dismissal. An at very least is an industrial tribunual if not a full blown court case. As far as i am aware neither of these have happened.

Add to that the fact that RM himself has made no mention of potentially seeking the advice of the players union or GMB makes it all the more odd.

Would seem to me a scenario of "mutual consent from both parties" - which if thats the case begs you to ask the question what have either party done which they want to keep quiet.

He was told he couldn't join in team training sessions, Cas would still have had to pay him as he had two years left on his contract, it would have been pay him every month for doing nothing or buy him out of his two years, as it is you and us have negotiated a deal and we're both contributing to his wages. Millward, no matter how great he thinks he is, cannot just sack a player without reason and without payment. I remember finding it strange reading his tweets in pre-season stating he was training alone, obviously Millward doesn't rate him (I don't particularly either) but the way he was frozen out whilst under contract was a very poor wy of handling things.

Re: richie matthers talking lies about cas through med : Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:11 am  

Fully wrote:

To be fair, Matterson had the fans protesting after losing to Barrow in 2010.Clean slate and all that. Wigan fans constantly criticise Richie Mathers but he was decent for Warrington and he played decently for us in bits and bobs.

And he had a bit of history in the 'freezer' department....remember Keith Mason?

Re: richie matthers talking lies about cas through med : Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:46 am  

Interesting to me that the majority of criticism levelled at Basil seems to be derived from Richie's Twitter account of things and this single article and based on little else.

I think I will keep my own powder dry and afford a professional club coach with at least 1 CC win and a SL ring a little more credit for his opinion than ours. NONE OF US have the insight and the 'truth' we have a perception from distance based on some media play and some edited interviews.
I have no axe to grind with Richie Mathers, seems a cracking lad to me with a lot of talent, but in my job sometimes, I have to look at individuals, no matter how much I like them for the overall good of what I am trying to create?