Re: Mathers : Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:19 pm  

bren2k wrote:

That was my point really - I said I didn't particularly approve of him playing out his grievances in the media and the comment about a tribunal was intended to highlight that he wouldn't actually have a case.

You said quote.......... "Having said that, I'm not a terrific fan of these disputes being played out in the media; if he wants to take action against Cas for constructive dismissal, perhaps he should have a word with Comrade Wilkin?"

Not how I read your bit regards taking action against Cas, you suggest that he doesn't talk to the media and to instead involve a Union? No one else mentioned ''dismissal but yourself. He wasnt dismissed he was told he didnt figure in the new coaches plans.

Re: Mathers : Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:19 pm  

I feel sorry for Mathers.

The same thing happened to Newton when basil arrived at Wigan, after everything he had done for our club.

There were countless other rumours about how the players were treated. I hope he has adapted his style for Cas, but i fear he probably hasn't.

Bad times for cas.

Re: Mathers : Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:21 pm  

stevem wrote:

You said quote.......... "Having said that, I'm not a terrific fan of these disputes being played out in the media; if he wants to take action against Cas for constructive dismissal, perhaps he should have a word with Comrade Wilkin?"

Not how I read your bit regards taking action against Cas, you suggest that he doesn't talk to the media and to instead involve a Union? No one else mentioned ''dismissal but yourself. He wasnt dismissed he was told he didnt figure in the new coaches plans.

It was a joke, illustrating the fact that he's spoken to a journalist instead of his union, which makes it plainly obvious that he knows doesn't have a case against Cas, other than a gripe about the way he perceives he was treated.

I've said many times in the past that I think it's a mistake to take a players description of these kind of situations as gospel - there are two sides to every story and in these days of greedy agents, usually three; all parties should, in my view, handle their disputes privately and not speak about them in the media.

Re: Mathers : Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:31 pm  

bren2k wrote:

It was a joke, illustrating the fact that he's spoken to a journalist instead of his union, which makes it plainly obvious that he knows doesn't have a case against Cas, other than a gripe about the way he perceives he was treated.

I've said many times in the past that I think it's a mistake to take a players description of these kind of situations as gospel - there are two sides to every story and in these days of greedy agents, usually three; all parties should, in my view, handle their disputes privately and not speak about them in the media.

Can i just add that slating a player in a public forum should also not be the 'done thing' until all the fact's are known. Otherwise i agree 100%.

Re: Mathers : Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:19 pm  

Iwould believe mathers 100% as i have first hand experience of the millward treatment, at a previous club he coached at he did exactly the same thing to a young up and coming player who after a season and a half of abuse walked away from the club he had been at 8 yrs ( from being 14 ), what would worry me now if i was a cas fan is who will be next

Re: Mathers : Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:01 pm  

So, when Keith Mason gets exactly the same treatment from, TM, it is strength and imposing himself and the right thing to do to make sure there are no exceptions to the Team Way. In this instance, other than a beautifully played PR campaign on Twitter by the player, there is no difference, but most people seem to be thinking Basil is a plum and going to be the ruination of the club, the town and probably the world, I wonder if he had a hand in the Greek economy??????

This is tres boring - If we get to 10 games in, we have won 6, Richie Owen has been MOTM a couple of times and we haven't had a tonking, the people weighing in to Millward now will be wanting to marry him or have him cannonised and it will be Richie Mather-Who - FACT.

Re: Mathers : Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:16 pm  

mdean wrote:

This is tres boring - If we get to 10 games in, we have won 6, Richie Owen has been MOTM a couple of times and we haven't had a tonking, the people weighing in to Millward now will be wanting to marry him or have him cannonised and it will be Richie Mather-Who - FACT.

I would doubt it considering most are not Cas fans.

It'll be: "You may have started well but you've had a few easy games, wait till Chase gets injured, Millward will ruin your club mark my words, all goes downhill from here." Etc.

Re: Mathers : Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:27 pm  

Fully wrote:

It'll be: "You may have started well but you've had a few easy games, wait till Chase gets injured, Millward will ruin your club mark my words, all goes downhill from here." Etc.

A bit like last season then

Re: Mathers : Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:07 am  

financialtimes wrote:

A bit like last season then

Zing!

Re: Mathers : Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:30 pm  

financialtimes wrote:

A bit like last season then

Indeed.

I believe the phrase "like a broken record" comes to mind.