Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:18 am  

castleford can't produce quality english rep players so they throw in a maori /exile
pathetic

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:14 am  

wilde-robin wrote:

castleford can't produce quality english rep players so they throw in a maori /exile
pathetic

I must have missed Michael Shenton being selected for England, Brett Ferres in the England squad mid-season, Joe Arundel, Jonathan Walker in England Knights this season, Joe Westerman being selected for England train-on squad, Adam Milner captaining the Academy to victory over Australia in Ashes.

I have no doubt that Milner, Clark and Craig Huby will also be up for rep honours in the future if they can get back fully fit (in CH's case) and continue their progression.

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:20 am  

viking.gb wrote:

He has let himself down and his country of origin,And all the other superleague clubs who are told u must be bringing your youngsters through as part of the criteria for a licence.If his child was born here there would be no problem with his child playing in years to come, but for all the people who say this is ok because of some strange made up rule then you are wrong and know u are.So does this mean he has made his bed and now cant play for newzeland ? .I for 1 am glad us widnes havent signed him,I used to love watching him play but have now lost faith in him.

But it's not some made up rule.
In two years time, he would have been able to apply for British Citizenship and obtain a British passport. Then he could STILL play for England. That is nothing to do with sport in ANY WAY.

If Rangi Chase can walk into an England side, that suggests that either the players we have in that position are not as good or we don't have enough depth. I think it's a case of both at the moment. We can only strengthen ourselves. Would I have a problem if Michael Dobson wanted to play for England tomorrow? Nope, because it would mean that we have two quality scrum-halves - Dobson and Brough - in the future.

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:01 am  

wilde-robin wrote:

castleford can't produce quality english rep players so they throw in a maori /exile
pathetic

Didnt realise Castleford had thrown anyone in anywhere, i assume you must be refering to Cas in this statement as if you were refering to the RFL you would be directing your comment to them.
As for the fact we can't produce rep players, maybe you should look closer to home - i must admit i like young the look of young Taylor, and of course there's Liam Watts (though i suspect if Cas had woke up to Westy a bit sooner and Liam wasn't treated at the time as a potential problem to Joe - we may not have released him for you to sign, to enable him to achieve his potential under all your experienced overseas contingent)
Glass, House, Throw, Stones

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:18 am  

Great player but no he should not play for England no way

NZ yes

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:20 pm  

The Xenophobes are out in force I see, small minded, pathetic and jealous.

The best player in Super League can play for England but it's an outrage that he's keeping out players that are worse than he is

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:36 pm  

It's not about being xenophobic though, he is a kiwi and i'm happy for anyone to come over and play club rugby, i'm happy for them to settle in this country but i'm not happy that a Kiwi plays for England because he's a kiwi.

Why people feel the need to bring out the race card i don't know, it's not relevant to my point anyway.

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:51 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

It's not about being xenophobic though, he is a kiwi and i'm happy for anyone to come over and play club rugby, i'm happy for them to settle in this country but i'm not happy that a Kiwi plays for England because he's a kiwi.

Why people feel the need to bring out the race card i don't know, it's not relevant to my point anyway.

Xenophobia has nothing to do with race per se. It comes from the stems "phobia" which means innate fear/hatred and the word "xenos" which is Greek for "stranger or guest".

Therefore, it means the innate hatred of guests!

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:58 pm  

Where have i stated that i either fear or hate him though, he makes England stronger but i don't believe in win at all costs.

Re: Should Rangi Chase play for England? : Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:11 pm  

He should be nowhere near the England team, because he's not English. It's not his fault the rules are so shambolic, but I have no respect for him at all for turning his back on his country. Heighington isn't English either, so shouldn't be anywhere near the side. I don't buy into the theory that his dad his English so he qualifies. He was born in Australia and brought up in Australia. I'd rather pick his dad.