: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:41 pm  

Really pleased for shenny! Ive got a feeling smiths goin to bring the old man back in to partner hall on the left tho, think shenny will b put on the right to tackle his backside off.

: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:36 pm  

pontytiger#9 wrote:

Really pleased for shenny! Ive got a feeling smiths goin to bring the old man back in to partner hall on the left tho, think shenny will b put on the right to tackle his backside off.

If Senior comes back there won't be a place for Shenton against the Aussies or Kiwis, perhaps France. Shenton isn't better than Gleeson and Smith knows this.

: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:41 pm  

Terry Monster wrote:

If Senior comes back there won't be a place for Shenton against the Aussies or Kiwis, perhaps France. Shenton isn't better than Gleeson and Smith knows this.

: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:47 pm  

pontytiger#9 wrote:

:lol:

Laugh all you want, we'll see.

: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:44 pm  

We saw this last weekend when Shenton was annonymous while Gleeson popped up places to cause damage.
Tonights game again.. great prospect, needs a couple more kilos on him imo

: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:47 pm  

Dico wrote:

We saw this last weekend when Shenton was annonymous while Gleeson popped up places to cause damage.
Tonights game again.. great prospect, needs a couple more kilos on him imo

Shenton has got a long way to go before he's at the level Martin Gleeson is.

: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:52 pm  

The frustrating thing is the amount of times Gleeson doesnt turn up.
Against the aussies he's simply not big enough or fast enough either yet he's still the best option outside of Senior.
Shenton does seem to have the step, the size, the pace but im not sure if he's got that experience yet, it's a different game international footy, where patience and clinical finishing is required.

Gleeson on his day is still a fairly class centre, I think sometimes he gets disgarded due to being one of the old guard and sometimes people would rather pick players because they're new but in reality they'd be found out more than the old guard. You can blood a couple but put 3 or 4 inexperienced in against the aussies and you're screwed

: Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:56 am  

Well done Shenny, Englands first choice centre!

Gleeson, still a decent player but at international level he's tried, tested and failed miserably

: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:01 am  

pyeman wrote:

In fairness he got 1, 2, 8, 13, 14 right.

And the cup winners and it could still very well be a Leeds v Wigan grand final. So he didnt do that bad really.

Gutted for Owen and Westerman they should at least be in the training squad. Shenton should be a starting centre IMO he has had decent season and is solid in defence. He will offer a alot more than Sykes.

: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:39 am  

Dico wrote:

The frustrating thing is the amount of times Gleeson doesnt turn up.
Against the aussies he's simply not big enough or fast enough either yet he's still the best option outside of Senior.
Shenton does seem to have the step, the size, the pace but im not sure if he's got that experience yet, it's a different game international footy, where patience and clinical finishing is required.

Gleeson on his day is still a fairly class centre, I think sometimes he gets disgarded due to being one of the old guard and sometimes people would rather pick players because they're new but in reality they'd be found out more than the old guard. You can blood a couple but put 3 or 4 inexperienced in against the aussies and you're screwed

So when does is Shenton gain this 'experience' against Wales or France? When the standard is no better than super league ( national league in the case of wales).In order to compete with the best you must play them on a regular basis. Get rid of these tired old men who have failed with every chance theyve been given and get the young lads in NOW that way we'l be ready to compete come the next world cup/ashes.Oh and 'clinical finishing' how many tries has gleeson scored compared to shenny this season?