: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:53 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

So because Richard Owen has played the majority of the season on the wing, Blaymire having better stats makes him better all of a sudden? wow

Well where do you get your opinion from then. Where is your proof that Owen is better other than your own biased opinion. Are we all supposed to say hey if Gaslight says he's better then he must be.

Your comment that Owen has played mainly on the wing only makes your assertion seem even more ridiculous - he's now according to you a better F/B than Blaymire even though he has hardly played there - is he a better prop than Graham or a finer stand off than McGuire - give your head a shake.

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:54 pm  

phil webbo wrote:

You are Gareth Hock and I claim my £5, the lad is a light weight, who winges every tackle and can't stay on his feet, Laughable really

It's beyond that - it's truly sad because they really believe it about every player after one good game.

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:56 pm  

vastman wrote:

Well where do you get your opinion from then. Where is your proof that Owen is better other than your own biased opinion. Are we all supposed to say hey if Gaslight says he's better then he must be.

Your comment that Owen has played mainly on the wing only makes your assertion seem even more ridiculous - he's now according to you a better F/B than Blaymire even though he has hardly played there - is he a better prop than Graham or a finer stand off than McGuire - give your head a shake.

So because he's played 3 games this season at full back he can't be better then a Wakey player? so does that mean Ricky Bibey is a better prop then Ryan Boyle because he's played there more this season?

Does that make Stuart Fielden a better prop then Sam Burgess because he's played prop more then him?

Thought not

Your biased opinion thinks Blaymire is better, my opinion, and fans of other clubs think Owen is a better full back.

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:11 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

So because he's played 3 games this season at full back he can't be better then a Wakey player? so does that mean Ricky Bibey is a better prop then Ryan Boyle because he's played there more this season?

Does that make Stuart Fielden a better prop then Sam Burgess because he's played prop more then him?

Thought not

Your biased opinion thinks Blaymire is better, my opinion, and fans of other clubs think Owen is a better full back.

Of course you can to a degree, how can any sane person judge a player on three games and tout him as a better player than others in that position, it's pure idiocy. Blaymire has played about 50 SL games at that position and is a known quantity and can be fairly judged as IMO above average but below world class. No reasonable judge could have any realIstic opinion on Owen as a F/B.

As for other fans at other clubs thinking he is better how old are you. What did they come up to you at one of the three games and randomly say "hey that Owen sure is better than Blaymire" give us a break.

I seriously doubt that up until this thread no one has ever made the comparison - not even owen.

For the love of god stop posting this crap you're an embarrassment to your club.

As it happens I think Bibey this season is about the same standard as Boyle - I can make that call because they have both played a bit - and other fans have also told me that

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:21 pm  

vastman wrote:

Of course you can to a degree, how can any sane person judge a player on three games and tout him as a better player than others in that position, it's pure idiocy. Blaymire has played about 50 SL games at that position and is a known quantity and can be fairly judged as IMO above average but below world class. No reasonable judge could have any realIstic opinion on Owen as a F/B.

As for other fans at other clubs thinking he is better how old are you. What did they come up to you at one of the three games and randomly say "hey that Owen sure is better than Blaymire" give us a break.

I seriously doubt that up until this thread no one has ever made the comparison - not even owen.

For the love of god stop posting this crap you're an embarrassment to your club.

As it happens I think Bibey this season is about the same standard as Boyle - I can make that call because they have both played a bit - and other fans have also told me that

And you aren't? is Ferugson still better then Westerman?

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:47 pm  

vastman wrote:

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: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:57 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

And you aren't? is Ferugson still better then Westerman?

Is Ferguson better than Westerman? Simple answer is on current form Y.E.S. by a distance. Is he hyped to hell and continually fails whenever I watch him, no he doesn't but Westerman does.

I promise you the first time I actually see Westerman play the way you lot claim he does I'll be the first to say he's great.

I really don't know where you think you're going with this Ferguson stuff. He clearly has proved a match for golden balls this season, any normal person can see that.

In fact at the match London fans kept saying to me how average Westy was compared to Ferguson - would you believe it. Of course this was after they had told me how average Blaymire was compared to Owen - and how although he has never played there Ferguson is a better F/B than both of them. Even more amazing he didn't play today but in your world crazy things happen.

PS: Blaymire had a blinder today, ooooh he is so average

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:36 pm  

vastman wrote:

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: Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:36 pm  

vastman wrote:

Is Ferguson better than Westerman? Simple answer is on current form Y.E.S. by a distance. Is he hyped to hell and continually fails whenever I watch him, no he doesn't but Westerman does.

I promise you the first time I actually see Westerman play the way you lot claim he does I'll be the first to say he's great.

I really don't know where you think you're going with this Ferguson stuff. He clearly has proved a match for golden balls this season, any normal person can see that.

In fact at the match London fans kept saying to me how average Westy was compared to Ferguson - would you believe it. Of course this was after they had told me how average Blaymire was compared to Owen - and how although he has never played there Ferguson is a better F/B than both of them. Even more amazing he didn't play today but in your world crazy things happen.

PS: Blaymire had a blinder today, ooooh he is so average

Who do you think will turn out to be the better player in the long run between Ferguson and Westerman?

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:43 pm  

vastman wrote:

Is Ferguson better than Westerman? Simple answer is on current form Y.E.S. by a distance. Is he hyped to hell and continually fails whenever I watch him, no he doesn't but Westerman does.

I promise you the first time I actually see Westerman play the way you lot claim he does I'll be the first to say he's great.

I really don't know where you think you're going with this Ferguson stuff. He clearly has proved a match for golden balls this season, any normal person can see that.

In fact at the match London fans kept saying to me how average Westy was compared to Ferguson - would you believe it. Of course this was after they had told me how average Blaymire was compared to Owen - and how although he has never played there Ferguson is a better F/B than both of them. Even more amazing he didn't play today but in your world crazy things happen.

PS: Blaymire had a blinder today, ooooh he is so average

Was Ferguson picked in england elite training squad?
Was Ferguson selected in the England sqaud this year or last?
Did all the players, pundits whoever voted for young player of the year last year all put westy down becuase he is no good.

I think all the answers to above questions is no.

Form is temporary Class is permanent!!!!

As westy proved over last couple of week not been at his best but with his top class line break at huddersfield and a back handed offload to set up a richie owen try that was given no try by video ref. You have also got to remeber he is playing a different role for us this year. This role I do think is right for him but im not the coach.

Also recovered from a serious head injury.

You are entitled to your opinion and dont disagree ferguson might be playing better recently but cas fans didnt select him in the elite squad or england squads but also cas fans dont get a vote in young player of year they are established proffesionals or experts in our game.

Are they wrong? sometimes maybe this time I say not.