Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:08 pm  

Traffic wrote: Sorry but you've answered how you would react and not what I asked. Does Gareth Thomas have a right to offended at the chanting? Yes or No. What are you talking about? Anyone has a right to take offence about absolutely anything they want. People take offence to all sorts of things all the time - there's no law against taking offence to things. I answered your original question but this embellishment is just stupid. Why don't you respond to my assertion instead. Do you think it's naive of Gareth Thomas to immerse himself in Rugby and never, ever expect to hear any comment about his sexuality. And before you answer that you might like to consider what he himself said when he 'came out' in the Mail: It is the toughest, most macho of male sports, and with that comes an image. In many ways, it is barbaric, and I could never have come out without first establishing myself and earning respect as a player. Rugby was my passion, my whole life, and I wasn't prepared to risk losing everything I loved. Here

Traffic wrote: Sorry but you've answered how you would react and not what I asked. Does Gareth Thomas have a right to offended at the chanting? Yes or No. What are you talking about? Anyone has a right to take offence about absolutely anything they want. People take offence to all sorts of things all the time - there's no law against taking offence to things. I answered your original question but this embellishment is just stupid. Why don't you respond to my assertion instead. Do you think it's naive of Gareth Thomas to immerse himself in Rugby and never, ever expect to hear any comment about his sexuality. And before you answer that you might like to consider what he himself said when he 'came out' in the Mail: It is the toughest, most macho of male sports, and with that comes an image. In many ways, it is barbaric, and I could never have come out without first establishing myself and earning respect as a player. Rugby was my passion, my whole life, and I wasn't prepared to risk losing everything I loved. Here

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:27 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

No, any lawyer worth his salt would just put on a Sky game in court and say listen to the abuse that goes on at EVERY club, homophobic or not, abuse is abuse and it would be thrown out like a shot (especially if they showed the Wire fans chanting about the shower habits of convicts to Leon Pryce)

well said buddy, like I said I think Cas were hard done to as everyone has always done this but Cas get grief

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:53 pm  

Disco wrote: What are you talking about? Anyone has a right to take offence about absolutely anything they want. People take offence to all sorts of things all the time - there's no law against taking offence to things. I answered your original question but this embellishment is just stupid. Why don't you respond to my assertion instead. Do you think it's naive of Gareth Thomas to immerse himself in Rugby and never, ever expect to hear any comment about his sexuality. And before you answer that you might like to consider what he himself said when he 'came out' in the Mail: It is the toughest, most macho of male sports, and with that comes an image. In many ways, it is barbaric, and I could never have come out without first establishing myself and earning respect as a player. Rugby was my passion, my whole life, and I wasn't prepared to risk losing everything I loved. Here Huh? Bearing in mid the question was directed at Poppy (which incidentally she answered) what are you on about?

Disco wrote: What are you talking about? Anyone has a right to take offence about absolutely anything they want. People take offence to all sorts of things all the time - there's no law against taking offence to things. I answered your original question but this embellishment is just stupid. Why don't you respond to my assertion instead. Do you think it's naive of Gareth Thomas to immerse himself in Rugby and never, ever expect to hear any comment about his sexuality. And before you answer that you might like to consider what he himself said when he 'came out' in the Mail: It is the toughest, most macho of male sports, and with that comes an image. In many ways, it is barbaric, and I could never have come out without first establishing myself and earning respect as a player. Rugby was my passion, my whole life, and I wasn't prepared to risk losing everything I loved. Here Huh? Bearing in mid the question was directed at Poppy (which incidentally she answered) what are you on about?

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:56 pm  

I'm sure if these had been racist chants directed at a black player there wouldn't be nine pages discussing this or the level of the fine. What other sports do is their business i.e. the FIFA situation. We should be thankful that our sport is willing to make a stand against discrimination in such a positive manner. As a minority sport which believes it has been discriminated against by the establishment I think we should all be able to recognise how important it is for us to fight issues of equality. Our sport has a rich heritage in issues of race at international level compared to the other big British sports i.e. football (first black player capped in 1978), RU (first black player capped in 1906 but no other played for another 82 years), Cricket (first black international 1980). We should be proud that our sport takes matters of discrimination very seriously especially when others, like FIFA, obviously don't.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:00 pm  

Traffic wrote:

Huh? Bearing in mid the question was directed at Poppy (which incidentally she answered) what are you on about?

Hmm.. ok.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:23 pm  

Imho the correct decision by the RFL

How any Cas fan can defend that sort of behaviour is beyond me and to think that the RFL has something against us is ridiculous.

Everyone at the club from the CEO to the fans is aware of the problems we've had and the trouble and speculation the club has come under because of crowd problems. Is it any suprise that with our record we weren't let off?

I hope the people in question are ashamed of their behaviour, it's just a shame that the club can't identify them and ban them for life, or at least make them pay some of the fine. After all it's their fault we got it in the first place

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:43 pm  

casman2 wrote:

Imho the correct decision by the RFL

How any Cas fan can defend that sort of behaviour is beyond me and to think that the RFL has something against us is ridiculous.

Everyone at the club from the CEO to the fans is aware of the problems we've had and the trouble and speculation the club has come under because of crowd problems. Is it any suprise that with our record we weren't let off?

I hope the people in question are ashamed of their behaviour, it's just a shame that the club can't identify them and ban them for life, or at least make them pay some of the fine. After all it's their fault we got it in the first place

Im not saying its right mate but have wire or hull been given any such fines? they are worse than yours (prepare to be hammered). Im not saying you are saints but a level playing field, if you guys warrant £40k so do most of super league.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:53 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

No, any lawyer worth his salt would just put on a Sky game in court and say listen to the abuse that goes on at EVERY club, homophobic or not, abuse is abuse and it would be thrown out like a shot (especially if they showed the Wire fans chanting about the shower habits of convicts to Leon Pryce)

Castleford should have employed a "lawyer worth his salt"then in the hearing and then occording to your logic it wouldnt have got this far !!

I await the appeal but if i was a Cas fan(thank god im sane and not)i would be saving up for an increase in ticket prices next year.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:48 am  

casman2 wrote:

Imho the correct decision by the RFL

How any Cas fan can defend that sort of behaviour is beyond me and to think that the RFL has something against us is ridiculous.

Everyone at the club from the CEO to the fans is aware of the problems we've had and the trouble and speculation the club has come under because of crowd problems. Is it any suprise that with our record we weren't let off?

I hope the people in question are ashamed of their behaviour, it's just a shame that the club can't identify them and ban them for life, or at least make them pay some of the fine. After all it's their fault we got it in the first place

Most of us aren't defending what happened, we are more angry at the severity of the fine. I am hoping the RFL show some consistency and come down equally as hard on any club who cannot control their fans.

Re: Tigers handed £40k fine : Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:11 am  

I hope Cas run this through the courts and take it as far as possible, it shows the RFL have one agenda and it shows