Re: Bulls Run Away With It In The End : Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:22 pm  

deeHell wrote:

You must be desperate to hold that incident as reason you lost. 7 tries to 2 (one obviously forward). You had a chance to take control of the game when you had the numerical advantage but your forwards didn't muscle up. The game was lost in forwards, shame the ginger midget couldn't acknowledge that in his post match interview. I suppose it still reinforces the victim mentality amongst you.

You obviously missed the 1st bit of my post.

Re: Bulls Run Away With It In The End : Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:23 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Nothing in it other than marginally late, possibly should have been a penalty at the time. The video ref reviewed the incident whilst the player was down and decided it was a fair challenge, I agree with him.

So, looking at this image and as a direct question you seem not to want to answer, which part of O'Brien's body do you see in contact with Scruton's shoulder?

Re: Bulls Run Away With It In The End : Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:26 pm  

deeHell wrote:

You must be desperate to hold that incident as reason you lost. 7 tries to 2 (one obviously forward). You had a chance to take control of the game when you had the numerical advantage but your forwards didn't muscle up. The game was lost in forwards, shame the ginger midget couldn't acknowledge that in his post match interview. I suppose it still reinforces the victim mentality amongst you.

It was not the reason we lost the game, Bradford's speed playing the ball kept us on the back foot throughout and caused our indiscipline. I am also disappointed in Millward's post-match comments, for the first time this year we didn't show any kind of backbone once things got tough.
However, we have lost our best player for two games (which I agree with, no victim mentality here) and just expect some consistency when the same thing happens the following week.

Re: Bulls Run Away With It In The End : Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:30 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

So, looking at this image and as a direct question you seem not to want to answer, which part of O'Brien's body do you see in contact with Scruton's shoulder?

Contact was shoulder to should and the force of impact sent O'Brien's head into the shoulder but contact was minimal. Not a lot in it except being slightly late but even that was 50/50 at normal speed. I know you're all feeling hard done by that your one man team was banned this week but the incidents aren't comparable in my opinion.

Re: Bulls Run Away With It In The End : Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:38 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Contact was shoulder to should and the force of impact sent O'Brien's head into the shoulder but contact was minimal. Not a lot in it except being slightly late but even that was 50/50 at normal speed. I know you're all feeling hard done by that your one man team was banned this week but the incidents aren't comparable in my opinion.

But as we have found contact with the head (even if it is not the initial impact or intentional) is a disciplinary offence.

Re: Bulls Run Away With It In The End : Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:43 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

But as we have found contact with the head (even if it is not the initial impact or intentional) is a disciplinary offence.

Can we now talk about the Gilmour head butt on 49 mins now then... I assume you'll be happy to accept a match ban for unintentional contact?

Re: Bulls Run Away With It In The End : Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:55 pm  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

Can we now talk about the Gilmour head butt on 49 mins now then... I assume you'll be happy to accept a match ban for unintentional contact?

We are having this discussion on your forum, I think it's a head clash BUT in fairness, it is technically contact with the head of the player with the ball, and it should be no different to accidental contact with the shoulder or arm.

Re: Bulls Run Away With It In The End : Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:57 pm  

If that's shoulder to shoulder, I'll be the new Pope.

O'Brien's arm is clearly underneath that of Scruton's.

It's a shoulder to the cheek. Given Rangi's was not as bad, it should be at least a 3 game ban.

Re: Bulls Run Away With It In The End : Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:04 pm  

Remember Rangi had previous though for a very similar offence, which will have increased his ban.
However, the incident is worse IMO as O'Brien does not have the ball.
2 match ban for me, maybe 1 with an early guilty plea if he has the option.

Re: Bulls Run Away With It In The End : Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:06 pm  

it seems the some Bulls fans must have some sort of body deformity's, or maybe cross eyed, they see a picture of a Bulls player hitting a player with a late high shoulder charge, but they think its shoulder to shoulder, when you wake up tomorrow and your not so exited take another look, when a player gets killed by a mis timed shoulder charge, his team can do what the Catalan club have done & say well we didn't think it was that bad plus our doctors tried to help.

The game was close until Mr Ganson intervened, i dont give a toss about loosing i do give a toss about the welfare of the players, when the officials turn a blind eye or mis these incidents it make the whole competition look amateurish