Re: What happens to Mathers now? : Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:35 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

Because he's still under contract so if you want him you pay for him, even if it's just a Mars bar.

Mini Mars bar, what you say is true but we could send him back and you could pay him, is it 90k well spent.

Re: What happens to Mathers now? : Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:37 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

Really?
Why on earth would Cas expect compensation for a player they clearly don't want?

Transfer fee. He's still under contract and Cas could almost certainly use him in the team.

Re: What happens to Mathers now? : Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:37 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

Because he's still under contract so if you want him you pay for him, even if it's just a Mars bar.

He was under contract last season, you compensated us by half his wages.
By my reckoning you owe us a snickers at the very least.
Can't see any comp, mutual agreement we either he remains on loan (costs you) or you release him and he signs for whoever on less money.

Re: What happens to Mathers now? : Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:41 pm  

Fully wrote:

Transfer fee. He's still under contract and Cas could almost certainly use him in the team.

Sometimes I think you inhabit a parallel universe to everyone else.
Millward hates him, Owen is going to be the next england fullback.
If your so keen keep him, pay his wages, never play him, we'll move on and sign someone else.
It really isn't a problem (for us).

Re: What happens to Mathers now? : Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:15 pm  

With the way I heard that Millward treated Ritchie mathers, Ritchie wouldn't be seen in the same room as him, and neither would I. What a nasty little goblin.

I think it is true little men are the most arrogant.

Re: What happens to Mathers now? : Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:59 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

He was under contract last season, you compensated us by half his wages.
By my reckoning you owe us a snickers at the very least.
Can't see any comp, mutual agreement we either he remains on loan (costs you) or you release him and he signs for whoever on less money.

Actually, you're paying more than half his wages.

As for your other post, is there anywhere that proves that Millward "hates" Mathers or is that something you've just conjured up based on RM's departure on loan from Cas this season?

If Millward has any sense the first thing he'll be doing his seeing how RM can add experience and depth to the backline and thrash this out ahead of the new season. With only Dixon, Carney and Clare to cover the wings, having Owen as a third winger would be hugely beneficial. That would free up Tansey to cover 6 behind Rangi and Ellis.

You say it isn't a problem...but how many experienced decent quality full-backs are there out there on a free you're able to snare, if you believe that a new FB is key? Not many.

Cas could release Mathers purely for the salary cap space but that would almost certainly be reliant on us finding a replacement I would say.

Re: What happens to Mathers now? : Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:19 pm  

Fully wrote:

Actually, you're paying more than half his wages.
Actually you don't know, I assume of you knew uoud be more handy with some figures.
As for your other post, is there anywhere that proves that Millward "hates" Mathers or is that something you've just conjured up based on RM's departure on loan from Cas this season?
Clearly Mildred has little time for Margers genes the stand-off at the start of the season and you loaning one of your better and more experienced players out on loan to your bitter rivals
If Millward has any sense the first thing he'll be doing his seeing how RM can add experience and depth to the backline and thrash this out ahead of the new season. With only Dixon, Carney and Clare to cover the wings, having Owen as a third winger would be hugely beneficial. That would free up Tansey to cover 6 behind Rangi and Ellis.
If indeed!!!
You say it isn't a problem...but how many experienced decent quality full-backs are there out there on a free you're able to snare, if you believe that a new FB is key? Not many.
You ought to be telling your coach that not me!!
Cas could release Mathers purely for the salary cap space but that would almost certainly be reliant on us finding a replacement I would say.
Isn't Owen good enough any more?

We've hopefully still got Sykes, then there is Cockayne. No dramas.
Like I said the problems are all Cas's, is Mildred going to lose more face with the players by bringing Mathers back or does he want the extra wage of a non playing player on the salary cap?

Re: What happens to Mathers now? : Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:41 pm  

We were informed Wakey were paying more than half at a Supporters Club event, I believe. HTH. I have been to so many meetings forgive me as I can't remember which one. Might have been Meet the Coaches.

Nothing to do with Owen being good enough; it's about depth and a replacement for Mathers would almost certainly be a three-quarter/winger. Rhys Williams would probably be most likely.

But if we're going for depth then someone like Mathers would be beneficial. Like I said, Owen could go on to wing with Carney. He wouldn't be non-playing.

Re: What happens to Mathers now? : Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:42 pm  

Fully wrote:

Actually, you're paying more than half his wages.

As for your other post, is there anywhere that proves that Millward "hates" Mathers or is that something you've just conjured up based on RM's departure on loan from Cas this season?

If Millward has any sense the first thing he'll be doing his seeing how RM can add experience and depth to the backline and thrash this out ahead of the new season. With only Dixon, Carney and Clare to cover the wings, having Owen as a third winger would be hugely beneficial. That would free up Tansey to cover 6 behind Rangi and Ellis.

You say it isn't a problem...but how many experienced decent quality full-backs are there out there on a free you're able to snare, if you believe that a new FB is key? Not many.

Cas could release Mathers purely for the salary cap space but that would almost certainly be reliant on us finding a replacement I would say.

Re: What happens to Mathers now? : Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:39 pm  

Scabbycat wrote:

I think it is true little men are the most arrogant.

Come on, we've had enough mathers abuse now, let it go.