Re: Todays Performance. : Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:21 pm  

morrissey wrote:

Don't understand the knee-jerk reactions and accusations of lacking in effort.

I think that stems from the fact that we stood still when we allowed Tomkins to pick up a loose-ball, run horizontally before arcing round and pass to Richards to finish in the corner without even attempting to lay a finger on him. It was shambolic.

We were well beaten by a much better side.

....who didn't have to get out of their comfort zone.

At times Wigan looked class and had we lacked for application then the score could have easily doubled.

.....or Wigan gave up half-way through?

Re: Todays Performance. : Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:37 pm  

Youngquest had what was possibly the worst game I have ever seen from a winger. Absolute shocker! I know he is just back from injury but if that's the best he can do he should stick to modelling underwear! Even Donlan had seen enough on the hour mark.

McGoldrick just looks fat and slow. I think Grehan will be taking his place in the next week or so. At least he showed interest.

Owen was fantastic again. Didn't stop. I bet he made more meters than most of the forwards. Griffin again was solid enough. TBH I didn't expect anything more from today. 3 first choice front rowers out means you will never beat the top teams. Ask Wakefield... Oh no wait they only have one out and were spanked by Bradford

Re: Todays Performance. : Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:13 pm  

Wigan never really got out of second gear. They were good but not great. They got the basics spot-on, something which seemed to elude us for the entire game. Our performance was very poor. We simply didn't stand up to them and our defence was terrible for the most part.

For me there were two players came out of the game with some credibility - Danny Orr, who worked extremely hard to create chances and motivate the team; and Richard Owen who was superb under the high ball. Other than that I was thoroughly disappointed with the lot of them and they really need to take a long hard look in the mirror. My mate's a Wigan fan and he was disappointed we didn't give them a better game - there was no comeback and that hurt. God help us on Friday.

Re: Todays Performance. : Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:34 pm  

I think that the reactions here are a bit harsh really. I didn't see a lack of effort but what I did see was a side that was simply outclassed by much better opposition.

Wigan knew that they had the measure of us and that allowed them to play a relaxed and confident brand of rugby and we were often just chasing shadows. Sure it wasn't our best performance but I don't think that there was much we could have done against them today personally.

They are a much stronger, faster and more skillful side and sometimes in sport you just have to hold your hands up, say well done to the opposition and look towards how we can improve. Sadly, until we get a stadium, bigger crowds and more money we will never really be able to compete with the top sides.

We did have quite a few players out today who would have normally played and we certainly missed Arundel who has been good for us the past few weeks.

Re: Todays Performance. : Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:39 pm  

CAS FAN wrote:

I think that the reactions here are a bit harsh really. I didn't see a lack of effort but what I did see was a side that was simply outclassed by much better opposition.

Wigan knew that they had the measure of us and that allowed them to play a relaxed and confident brand of rugby and we were often just chasing shadows. Sure it wasn't our best performance but I don't think that there was much we could have done against them today personally.

They are a much stronger, faster and more skillful side and sometimes in sport you just have to hold your hands up, say well done to the opposition and look towards how we can improve. Sadly, until we get a stadium, bigger crowds and more money we will never really be able to compete with the top sides.

We did have quite a few players out today who would have normally played and we certainly missed Arundel who has been good for us the past few weeks.

Did you see the performance against Catalans last week? I'd swear that was a different team out there today (and against Bradford) if I didn't know better.

Re: Todays Performance. : Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:23 pm  

To be honest i was shocked at the lack of fight in your side yesterday. I think you need some mongrel in your pack and quick.

Re: Todays Performance. : Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:55 pm  

Bonzo wrote:

Did you see the performance against Catalans last week? I'd swear that was a different team out there today (and against Bradford) if I didn't know better.

But last week we didn't try to take a larger pack on down the middle of the park! I really wish we would realise that at the moment we really have no front rowers to take the ball in. We are amuch better side when throwing the ball out wide!

Re: Todays Performance. : Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:46 pm  

At times, Sam had a gap of about 2 metres to exploit. You can't give a player of his class that much time and space or he'll kill you all game as he seemed to do yesterday. I thought Chase did his best and showed some decent touches but with a beaten pack its hard for a halfback to have a true influence on the game. Richard Owen also looked lively and again the same point applies. You have the makings of top 8 side but you need to improve in the forwards if you are gonna make it. Great banter with some of the locals before the game by the way, had a really good day and was made very welcome. Your fans are a credit to your club (minus the one numpty near the end)

Re: Todays Performance. : Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:56 pm  

cherryandwhitedavid06 wrote:

but you need to improve in the forwards if you are gonna make it.

Luckily there's 3 props to come back from injury yet (Huby, Millington, Jackson).

Re: Todays Performance. : Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:09 pm  

I think there is some perspective needed - we are neither going to finish top or bottom, so lets take something of a view of the events of the last week and be a little bit balanced. Secondly, three of our first 5 props are out, Wigan play fast and dominant in the middle for the first several tackles of every set.

Not that this excuses a poor effort and poor organisation - I do think that when other team's are in possession they have more players on the move purposefully creating doubt.... Generally speaking a numbered up defence will work against us with a press in or a press out to cover an over or an under line - so we don't create a lot of doubt in the opposition defense in our 'standard' sets - when we get to our red sets in the oppo 20 and get a half back on the ball - then we have some variety, but in our own half, it is a bit one dimensional.

Friday; similar defeat or we win, nothing between. Expect Hills to give us 14 start and we will either be easy inside that or will need double.