Re: i would rather have mathers back : Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:37 pm  

It's hardly fair to criticise Owen for their first try given the conditions. Further to this, given those conditions, it's hardly a fair to judge him on the basis of this.

Secondly, I seem to remember Mathers suffering the same fate v Kearney and probably McGoldrick the season before that. They try the same high bomb in every game against us and every time Kearney catches it and scores.

Re: i would rather have mathers back : Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:01 pm  

Fully wrote:

They try the same high bomb in every game against us and every time Kearney catches it and scores.

He's been offside at least twice too.

Re: i would rather have mathers back : Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:39 pm  

MATHERS WAS YOUR 2ND BEST PLAYER AS PREVIOUSLY STATED ON OUR FORUM. HES A GOOD PLAYER.

Re: i would rather have mathers back : Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:50 pm  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

MATHERS WAS YOUR 2ND BEST PLAYER.

No he isn't, maybe 22nd best though.

2nd best

newgroundb4cas wrote:

AS PREVIOUSLY STATED ON OUR FORUM. HES A GOOD PLAYER.

You're considered a troll even by fellow Wakefield fans so why would you post the same crap here too

Thanks for reminding me that you need ignore listing though

Re: i would rather have mathers back : Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:57 pm  

newgroundb4cas wrote:

MATHERS WAS YOUR 2ND BEST PLAYER AS PREVIOUSLY STATED ON OUR FORUM. HES A GOOD PLAYER.

chase, clark, huby, widders emmitt, orr and dixon were all much better for us last season and irrefutably so.

I personally thought youngquest, holmes, arundel, thompsn, ferres, milner, jackson and jones were all much better too.

Had you said 2nd worse i might agree with you (though im not sure who was worse).

And for brens benefit this isn't me changing my opinion since he has signed for wakey, ive been pretty consistent in thinking he was average to poor for years now (last time i rated him he played for leeds).

Oh and stop shouting!

Re: i would rather have mathers back : Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:22 pm  

pyeman wrote:

Oh and stop shouting!

He always does that - I think he's hard of hearing.

I think you're comparing apples with oranges in large part - I'm not sure how you can meaningfully compare a fb with a prop forward for example?

Anyhow, Mathers is a senior player with a decent amount of medals in his sock drawer and as such, I respect him, as I do pretty much anyone who's sufficiently skilled at the toughest sport in the world to play it at a professional level. Thus far he's doing a good job for us and I've been told by a member of the coaching staff that he's one of the hardest trainers in the squad and a fine example to the younger lads. All in all, a decent bit of business for both clubs, given that IM didn't want him and RA did, so no need to argue!

I still think there's a bit of 'the friend of my enemy is my enemy' syndrome going on, but I guess that's only natural.

Re: i would rather have mathers back : Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:14 pm  

bren2k wrote:

He always does that - I think he's hard of hearing.

I think you're comparing apples with oranges in large part - I'm not sure how you can meaningfully compare a fb with a prop forward for example?

Anyhow, Mathers is a senior player with a decent amount of medals in his sock drawer and as such, I respect him, as I do pretty much anyone who's sufficiently skilled at the toughest sport in the world to play it at a professional level. Thus far he's doing a good job for us and I've been told by a member of the coaching staff that he's one of the hardest trainers in the squad and a fine example to the younger lads. All in all, a decent bit of business for both clubs, given that IM didn't want him and RA did, so no need to argue!

I still think there's a bit of 'the friend of my enemy is my enemy' syndrome going on, but I guess that's only natural.

I was comparing how vital they were for the team, we looked a better team when goldy played at fb last season, cant think of any other first choice players we had that looked inferior to their own back up.

Oh don't get me wrong bren i think its a fantastic bit of business and one i am very pleased with.

Like i say not from me bren, i didn't want us to sign him in the first place, and to be honest its not my style, when wakey signed brough, higgins and blanch for instance i spoke positively about them to wakefield fans. Ive also stated many times that i think amor, johnson and mariano are 3 great finds and would have any of them at cas in a heartbeat.

Re: i would rather have mathers back : Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:47 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

So his failure to kick the ball dead is because of the pitch?

It was a classic Mathers brain fart.

Surely it can't have been as big a brain fart as Owen's similar effort was at Headingley last season

Re: i would rather have mathers back : Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:25 pm  

Why would you want Mathers back ?
The turnstyles are all manned and the tea lady is doing a cracking job, no room for him.

oooh that chin lady is on this thread too ........................................... must be a quiet mugging night on halton moor

Re: i would rather have mathers back : Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:10 pm  

for any cas fans who agree with this thread here are the stats of both players after 2 games


owen mathers
Position 1 1
Shirt number 1 1
Appearances 2 2
Tries 3 1
Try assists 0 1
Goals 0 0
Drop Goals 0 0
Meters 297 209
Carries 49 30
Tackles 4 4
Offloads 1 0
Attacking Kicks 2 0
Runs from dummy half 11 3
Tackle Busts 8 4
Marker tackles 0 0
Clean Breaks 2 1
Forty twenty 0 0
Kicks in general play 2 0
Missed goals 0 0
Missed tackles 0 2
Errors 4 3
Penalties 0 1
Red cards 0 0
Yellow cards 0 0