Tesco have essentially said what everyone else has, the Aire Street location is simply not up to scratch for building a Supermarket on and never has been, EH would be better off just leaving it well alone especially considering they're already alienating parts of the town who value the rugby team much more than a crap town centre with nothing of note in it.
"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League"
To inject some facts into the proceedings, there are 32 posts on that thread and not a single one from someone who is 'getting off' on the chance that Cas might fail. Considerably less, it's worth pointing out, than the unctious bile posted on the dreadful 'casforum' under the thread that closely monitors the Wakefield Community Stadium. (You know, the forum where your very own Fully recently suggested Cas fans should object to the development, to scupper WTW's chances of progression?)
Drama-queens like you who walk around hefting a massive chip on their shoulder are the reason threads like these descend into pathetic slanging matches. Grow up.
What's laughable is you keep referring to that post, which was very much tongue in cheek and was a joke. But still, you let your bitterness prevail you.
In respect of this, in place of Bonzo and the other mods not present, may I redirect people to take the opportunity to read the AUP.
Particularly this bit:
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And this one:
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I've read the Wakey thread - no one offers nothing in particular, no facts, only hear-say. I find it quite amusing that there appears to be a different thread regarding Cas every week. Stadium, Millward, ST sales, squads etc etc. It's getting rather tiresome particularly when the mods on there are more proactive, locking threads and then it all gets dragged on to here because some posters can't hold their water and just want to post (quite frankly) ill-informed rubbish and it really is ruining it for the enjoyment of others. One member even posts that we've thrown an obstacle in for Newmarket? I'd be intrigued to hear about that...perhaps that poster (forgotten who) can shed more light on that
With regard to this, the Tesco objection is certainly welcome news for the Tigers. It means that they are firmly against EH who are real only threat at the moment. No one else has come out of the woodwork and Opus are working tirelessly on our plans.
Having read Binks' post on the Wakefield board, and as someone who has absolutely no knowledge of the current supermarket situation in Castleford, it looks to me like Tesco are objecting simply because the site is too small for them, but they don't want to see a smaller supermarket built on the site to take trade away from wherever their ideal location would be. That could be Wheldon Road or somewhere else. So whilst it's not bad news for Cas (Tigers), it's not cast iron good news either... just news.
Having read Binks' post on the Wakefield board, and as someone who has absolutely no knowledge of the current supermarket situation in Castleford, it looks to me like Tesco are objecting simply because the site is too small for them, but they don't want to see a smaller supermarket built on the site to take trade away from wherever their ideal location would be. That could be Wheldon Road or somewhere else. So whilst it's not bad news for Cas (Tigers), it's not cast iron good news either... just news.
Think that's precisely what it is, but Tesco also go on to say that other Supermarkets have deemed the site insufficient for food retail (size, parking etc)
Think that's precisely what it is, but Tesco also go on to say that other Supermarkets have deemed the site insufficient for food retail (size, parking etc)
It's a rather vague statement, though, isn't it? What may be too small for Tesco may not be too small for Aldi or Lidl (unless you already have one or both of these). Either way, it implies that Tesco are still looking at Castleford as a viable location, depending on whether they get their ideal site and can keep their competitors out of town. All to play for, as they say.
"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League"
It's a rather vague statement, though, isn't it? What may be too small for Tesco may not be too small for Aldi or Lidl (unless you already have one or both of these). Either way, it implies that Tesco are still looking at Castleford as a viable location, depending on whether they get their ideal site and can keep their competitors out of town. All to play for, as they say.
FWIW The difference is this -
Aire Street Food retail (Tesco/morrison??) is approx 7500 sq meters spread over 2 floors (with all the added service/running costs that would come with it) within a 7 storey block including car parking, other retail and 80 appartments on a small footprint town centre(!!) site.
Wheldon Road food retail is 8000 sq meters in an "off the shelf flat pack" building plus parking and petrol station all on ground level with easy build access.
Which would you or I or Tesco or Morrisons go for?
AFAIK Aldi or Lidl don't do 8000 sq metre supermarkets.
Which would you or I or Tesco or Morrisons go for?
AFAIK Aldi or Lidl don't do 8000 sq metre supermarkets.
I'd go for the smaller area, as I don't have sufficient stuff to sell on 8 sq metres, never mind 8,000.
Seriously, though... I wasn't suggesting either Lidl or Aldi do large developments, and I don't know which supermarkets already exist in Cas. However, a smaller retail area may be of interest to either of those chains, if they have no presence in the town, and may put Tesco off developing a larger plot, even if it is at less cost. I don't think either chain would be considered as Tesco's main rivals, but they may take sufficient trade away to make a Tesco development elsewhere less viable. I'm only commenting on a possible reason for the Tesco objection to development from what I've read of their submission, nothing more.
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