Re: We've not held Morgan talks, say Castleford : Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:52 am  

I really do not want Morgan, never rated him since he took over at HKR.

Noble would show good intent from the club about our future and also an English coach!

Re: We've not held Morgan talks, say Castleford : Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:34 pm  

I think we definitely need an english coach, paul anderson maybe?

Re: We've not held Morgan talks, say Castleford : Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:50 pm  

Bonzo wrote:

I agree about Morgan. If he was appointed I think many fans would see it as a backward step. Same with Kear. With Noble, I'm not keen on his style of rugby and I'd be worried about whether or not he'd continue offering opportunities to the young local talent; however he's got a proven track record and his appointment would give the fans some confidence in what the club's ambitions are.

Your right, signing justin morgan would be a backward step...for justin morgan.

Re: We've not held Morgan talks, say Castleford : Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:15 pm  

You could say the same about a few other coaches re: Morgan.

For instance, could Tony Smith do the same job as at Wire whilst under the limitations at Cas? Could Michael Maguire? Could Nathan Brown?

Re: We've not held Morgan talks, say Castleford : Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:18 am  

redmuzza wrote:

Your right, signing justin morgan would be a backward step...for justin morgan.

Wrong. It would be a backward step for us because he'd have a lot of young local talent that he wouldn't have a clue how to support and develop. He's proved that where he is now. Nor would he be working for a club prepared to put itself up the eyeballs in debt to waste money on second rate imports. Granted they're not all like that, infact Hull KR have an overall decent squad, which Morgan's done bugger all with.

Re: We've not held Morgan talks, say Castleford : Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:57 am  

I completely agree with regards to Noble and his application of mental toughness, and defensive steel- it is something I would love to see at Cas. As for his "Boring style" I highly doubt that he would simply tell Rangi Chase, McGoldrick and Orr to be boring, rather simply reign it in to play that style in the right place and right time- something we usually don't do, and end up paying the consequences for over playing.
Surely someone such as Brian Noble would also be a draw for bigger players- being outside the big four is always something that is going to be a hinderence in recruitment, and with his reputation in the game I feel it would help us. Also considering the constant rumours/complaints from fans about players in pubs/bars etc I would imagine he would be a well respected figure for the players.

Re: We've not held Morgan talks, say Castleford : Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:36 pm  

Brian Noble has been successful at every club he has coached. He would do wonders for Cas and he could attract some good players.

Re: We've not held Morgan talks, say Castleford : Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:42 pm  

The Doctor wrote:

I completely agree with regards to Noble and his application of mental toughness, and defensive steel- it is something I would love to see at Cas. As for his "Boring style" I highly doubt that he would simply tell Rangi Chase, McGoldrick and Orr to be boring, rather simply reign it in to play that style in the right place and right time- something we usually don't do, and end up paying the consequences for over playing.
Surely someone such as Brian Noble would also be a draw for bigger players- being outside the big four is always something that is going to be a hinderence in recruitment, and with his reputation in the game I feel it would help us. Also considering the constant rumours/complaints from fans about players in pubs/bars etc I would imagine he would be a well respected figure for the players.

Re: We've not held Morgan talks, say Castleford : Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:57 pm  

I'd love to see Noble at Cas!!

As for those who talk about a 'boring brand' of rugby, they haven't got the first clue about the game!!! A coach who gets his team to play the right game plan....for the right conditions, for the right opposition.....is a coach who gets results!!

Everything that is solid and reliable in life is built on the right foundations. In our game that means good fitness, a good pack, a good defence and a solid ability to do the basics...and do them well. With that structure behind you, your attacking players have everything they need to run riot and give the entertaining game that we all want to see!!

Re: We've not held Morgan talks, say Castleford : Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:10 pm  

the_grobs wrote:

I'd love to see Noble at Cas!!

As for those who talk about a 'boring brand' of rugby, they haven't got the first clue about the game!!! A coach who gets his team to play the right game plan....for the right conditions, for the right opposition.....is a coach who gets results!!

Everything that is solid and reliable in life is built on the right foundations. In our game that means good fitness, a good pack, a good defence and a solid ability to do the basics...and do them well. With that structure behind you, your attacking players have everything they need to run riot and give the entertaining game that we all want to see!!

I think it's a bit harsh to say that I haven't got the first clue about the game given I'm one of those who dislikes Noble's brand of rugby. What I can see, is that what he would bring is what we seem to lack at the moment, especially in defence, plus a winning mentality. The creativity is there, it just needs the defence to go with it.

In Noble's defence, it's 5/6 years since he left Odsal and the Bulls are even more boring than ever, so perhaps each team has their traits which are ingrained and emphasise their core style and it's up to a coach to develop their weaker areas.

The more I think about it, I'm not sure it's an attacking coach that we need - our team can do that for fun anyway. It would be nice to be sitting here not expecting a hammering tonight, but with our squad depth, injuries and defence, it's difficult to see anything else. One of Matterson's strengths as a coach has been that one worries about staying away and missing a gem of a game, which his team are so capable of producing from time to time.