Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:47 pm  

Gazemous wrote:

saying that 'London doesn't want RL' is akin to saying that 'Manchester doesn't want RL' just because Salford's crowds are poor.

Here's the thing, realistically Manchester DOESN'T want RL because they don't really care about RL or follow the game! Football is the only interest there in the same way as it is Sheffield, Gateshead, Carlisle, Nottingham, Paris & sadly, London.

Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:04 am  

If the RL bail out the Harlequins out will their then financial irregularities be ignored? I think so. Again making our game and the people who run it look stupid.

Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:06 am  

Disco wrote:

As one who vividly remembers the sort of stereotyped, p*ss take media treatment RL used to get before the likes of London, France, Wales were in the psyche I have to say I'd be gutted if Quins were allowed to fail.

They wont be relegated or allowed to fail. The cynic in me sees this situation as something that saves our or Wakeys Superleague franchise, with the announcement beginning something like ' due to the current financial situation blah blah blah'. On the down side I can see Widnes being shafted again.

this idiotic franchise system needs scrapping and the whole of the RFL need frontal lobotomies, there must be a cure for this madness

Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:00 am  

ambernotyeller wrote: They wont be relegated or allowed to fail. The cynic in me sees this situation as something that saves our or Wakeys Superleague franchise, with the announcement beginning something like ' due to the current financial situation blah blah blah'. On the down side I can see Widnes being shafted again. this idiotic franchise system needs scrapping and the whole of the RFL need frontal lobotomies, there must be a cure for this madness Which team escaped relegation because of the introduction of franchises? It wasn't Quinns! http://www.superleague.co.uk/table08.php

ambernotyeller wrote: They wont be relegated or allowed to fail. The cynic in me sees this situation as something that saves our or Wakeys Superleague franchise, with the announcement beginning something like ' due to the current financial situation blah blah blah'. On the down side I can see Widnes being shafted again. this idiotic franchise system needs scrapping and the whole of the RFL need frontal lobotomies, there must be a cure for this madness Which team escaped relegation because of the introduction of franchises? It wasn't Quinns! http://www.superleague.co.uk/table08.php

Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:20 am  

boost wrote: Which team escaped relegation because of the introduction of franchises? It wasn't Quinns! http://www.superleague.co.uk/table08.php I know all that and would still have preferred to stay with promo and relegation. You seem to forget that all knew there was no relegation therefore spending brass that year was a waste of money. If you want to be pedantic, who was relegated when an expansion club finished below them and also when the leagues perrennial cheats were allowed to rewrite the salary cap rules to suit themselves. Its all water under the bridge and a return to promotion and relegation is the only way to save this game from itself

boost wrote: Which team escaped relegation because of the introduction of franchises? It wasn't Quinns! http://www.superleague.co.uk/table08.php I know all that and would still have preferred to stay with promo and relegation. You seem to forget that all knew there was no relegation therefore spending brass that year was a waste of money. If you want to be pedantic, who was relegated when an expansion club finished below them and also when the leagues perrennial cheats were allowed to rewrite the salary cap rules to suit themselves. Its all water under the bridge and a return to promotion and relegation is the only way to save this game from itself

God. they even want a ground building for them now : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:24 am  

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Early Bath wrote:Finally re the ground - Is there another stadium in North London with a capacity to work on? Hendon/Wealdstone prob too small - any others?

The only remotely sensible one I can think of is Leyton Orient.

Dagenham and Barnet are too small. There is no non-league football ground in Greater London any better than those. Other than that you've got either modern grounds like Charlton and Millwall that are too big, plus other even bigger grounds; then there's the likes of Brentford that is too antiquated to satisfy the increasing drive towards modernisation of SL grounds.

Our current ground is as good as we'll get; the trouble is it's probably in the worst area of Greater London in which to establish RL. I'm not sure "London RLFC" as tenants of an established other club is ever going to work. It didn't the last time and a lot of people, myself included, felt the link up with Quins was the final throw of the dice. Being Quins at The Stoop feels like we've got our own ground to me in a way that squatting at Brentford FC didn't.

Ideally we need a ground of our own that isn't associated with a bigger club playing another code. Even Skolars have got that! Is there a dormant stadium somewhere that we could take over and redevelop as our own home? Even if there is it would require a benevolent multi-millionaire to make it happen. If the RFL & Sky really do feel it's so essential to sustain a London club in Superleague maybe they can do something to bring about a dedicated rugby league stadium in the capital?

YOU COULDNT MAKE THIS UP

Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:25 am  

ambernotyeller wrote:

I know all that and would still have preferred to stay with promo and relegation. You seem to forget that all knew there was no relegation therefore spending brass that year was a waste of money. If you want to be pedantic, who was relegated when an expansion club finished below them and also when the leagues perrennial cheats were allowed to rewrite the salary cap rules to suit themselves. Its all water under the bridge and a return to promotion and relegation is the only way to save this game from itself

Widnes have done the same thing, in reverse if you like, cruising through the season without any pressure to WIN.

Don't blame Widnes or Cas in either instance, playing the system that the RFL have dreamed up to improve the game and one thats made a mockery of our sport and everything it stood for IMO.

Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:32 am  

BIGAL1 wrote:

Widnes have done the same thing, in reverse if you like, cruising through the season without any pressure to WIN.

Don't blame Widnes or Cas in either instance, playing the system that the RFL have dreamed up to improve the game and one thats made a mockery of our sport and everything it stood for IMO.

Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:49 am  

ambernotyeller wrote:

I know all that and would still have preferred to stay with promo and relegation. You seem to forget that all knew there was no relegation therefore spending brass that year was a waste of money. If you want to be pedantic, who was relegated when an expansion club finished below them and also when the leagues perrennial cheats were allowed to rewrite the salary cap rules to suit themselves. Its all water under the bridge and a return to promotion and relegation is the only way to save this game from itself

Or to avoid building a new stadium

Re: Harelequins RL ask RFL for assistance : Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:54 am  

boost wrote:

Or to avoid building a new stadium

That may be so, but if you had any idea , then you would know that i am not in the new stadium at all costs camp. I would sooner stay darnt lane with an atmosphere than be in some soulless stadium risking bankruptcy paying for it.

A good lick of paint and the old girl will do for me.


As youre from Wales, please tell us where will crusaders play next season and under what name ??? just curious