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| Quote the_grobs="the_grobs"My thoughts are a bit broader and wider, and are in regards to the game as a whole. The next generation of British players coming through etc.'"
Having a team in france in no way effects this
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| Quote tb="tb"
Ad just for the sake of the obviously bigoted and thick OP - Perpignan is part of "the true RL community, our RL values" (unlike, say, …) – and when I spend an overnight at a game, whether I put money into a chain hotel in Leeds or Perpignan makes no difference to the "the future of the club I love".'"
Who the hell are you to call the OP thick? Have your say on the matter but why fire insults around?
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| Quote Towns88="Towns88"Who the hell are you to call the OP thick? '"
Somebody who's read his post. It's a stupid post. The conclusion I draw is that …
The idea that spending money in a pub in Widnes is somehow supporting "the true RL community, our RL values and the club you love (ie Cas)" and spending money in a bar in Perpignan isn't, is stupid. It's a thick idea.
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| Quote MrPhilb="MrPhilb"Having a team in france in no way effects this'"
Each time a visiting fan decides not to travel to an away game in the UK, or throw a few quid in the collection buckets for our juniors because....
a) He/she spent 300 or 400 notes in Catalan/France last week and is now skint.
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b) He/She is lives in Catalan and doesn't travel to away games.
......tell me how much of that revenue your club can then invest in training home grown talent at your club, your academy team or any of the other good causes that I mentioned in my original post? 
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| Quote tb="tb"Somebody who's read his post. It's a stupid post. The conclusion I draw is that …
The idea that spending money in a pub in Widnes is somehow supporting "the true RL community, our RL values and the club you love (ie Cas)" and spending money in a bar in Perpignan isn't, is stupid. It's a thick idea.'"
His post clearly means more then that. Stop acting like a kid.
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| i Cant help thinking this thread is motivated by " If they didn't exist we would not be fighting for a license "
Do you not think that having a successful French team generates more money for the RFL to invest into junior rugby across the UK and Europe.
If you think somehow the Develpoment of junior talet is suffering by the inclution of the French/ Welsh the i suggest you go have a look at Cas Panthers , Lock Lane, Fryston, Townville, Smawthorne, Oulton and the rest and you will see what i mean !!
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| Quote binks="binks"i Cant help thinking this thread is motivated by " If they didn't exist we would not be fighting for a license "
Do you not think that having a successful French team generates more money for the RFL to invest into junior rugby across the UK and Europe.
If you think somehow the Develpoment of junior talet is suffering by the inclution of the French/ Welsh the i suggest you go have a look at Cas Panthers , Lock Lane, Fryston, Townville, Smawthorne, Oulton and the rest and you will see what i mean !!'"
No, not motivated by our fight for a license.....just an observation.
In terms of the success, it depends on what factors we are using to judge the success?? If we look at atendances, I get the gut feel that their ticket prices are heavily subsidised out there. If we look at their attendances for their away games, they bring less than an NL2 team would through our turnstyles.
So, I genuinely ask the question....how do they generate money for the RFL to then invest in youth development across Europe and the UK? It would appear more that it is us...the fans....and the RFL investing in Catalan...not the other way round!!
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| Following on from this idea then I suppose going to Wembley for the CC Final and Murrayfield or the Millenium Stadium for the Magic weekend is also something we should stop?
The point I dont understand is how not going to Catalans for £200 is going to put money in any of the local amateur sides pockets? Becasue I havent gone to watch Cas away at Catalans, am I going to go and watch Sherburn Bears juniors and put £200 in the field collection? Or perhaps buy £200 worth of raffle tickets?
I suppose the final issue is the Catalans region of France, is a rugby league heartland, and one thats struggling, and would struggle signifcantly more without the Dragons. Are we supposed to consign French RL to the dustbin and allow it to wither and die. Thats realy going to help strengthen the international scene.
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| Quote the_grobs="the_grobs"You've missed the point by a country mile!!!
The sport that we love is based around a competitive match being played in front of home and visiting fans. If supporters love the game half as much as they claim, then they will travel to support their team on away games. But at what point does it become too expensive? or not the best use of their money in truly supporting the game they claim to love, or indeed supporting their club?
Amongst the many other impracticalities of having an overseas team in the league, most of us can decide when and where we want to go on holiday without the RFL deciding that for us? Or maybe some can't!!!
If you're not too bright in life then let the RFL decide where you spend your money on holiday......in the meantime I'll put some money into the grass roots, and core values of our sport, so that you've got something to watch and say how deeply involved you are when your on holiday.'"
The RFL don't force people onto planes do they? If its too expensive don't go! Simples.
Anyhow I prefer to spend my money on sex, drugs and rock and roll! And fish.
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| Quote .how do they generate money for the RFL to then invest in youth development across Europe and the UK?'"
The same way as Quins and the crusaders(when in south wales not widnes sorry wrexham) by giving the league a wider appeal to sky views as has been previously noted most of sky viewers are from the south
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| Quote westyorkylad="westyorkylad"Following on from this idea then I suppose going to Wembley for the CC Final and Murrayfield or the Millenium Stadium for the Magic weekend is also something we should stop?'"
Good point!
Here's a suggestion...the RFL should build a stadium in the North of England, to host such events, Internationals, regional finals etc etc.
Quote westyorkylad="westyorkylad"The point I dont understand is how not going to Catalans for £200 is going to put money in any of the local amateur sides pockets? Becasue I havent gone to watch Cas away at Catalans, am I going to go and watch Sherburn Bears juniors and put £200 in the field collection? Or perhaps buy £200 worth of raffle tickets?'"
True that is human nature! But if you've just blown a load of money on a trip to Catalan, then you're even less likely to throw a quid in the collection bucket for the juniors, and it's another excuse/reason to miss some other away game, to again save a few quid.
Quote westyorkylad="westyorkylad"I suppose the final issue is the Catalans region of France, is a rugby league heartland, and one thats struggling, and would struggle signifcantly more without the Dragons. Are we supposed to consign French RL to the dustbin and allow it to wither and die. Thats realy going to help strengthen the international scene.'"
It's harsh...but yes I'd save a North of England team every single day of the week rather than a team in French Rugby League. Don't fool yourself and think that the French would do any different!!
In regards to the International scene, the fans have voted with their feet on the international scene.
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| Quote binks="binks"The same way as Quins and the crusaders(when in south wales not widnes sorry wrexham) by giving the league a wider appeal to sky views as has been previously noted most of sky viewers are from the south'"
Lets be clear, so that your point is relevant. You are talking about the sky viewers watching rugby league aren't you???? Not just the number of SKY viewers as a whole, which is obviously greater in the South due to the greater population of the south.
However, if they are not watching Rugby League on SKY, then how does it make a difference by Quins, Crusaders or Cataln playing?
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