: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:37 pm  

Bob-Marley wrote:

Shenton, oh dear. Richard Owen would have been a far better choice considering our wing/fullback options. Saying that our Centre options aint much better.

Oh dear? he's the top centre in sl for scoring tries, despite being starved of the ball for large parts of the season when sherwin was out, and is very solid in defence. Who else was going to get picked? senior has retired, atkins is injured, gleeson has offered nothing in attack all season, pryce has played there in quite a while (and it was never his best position anyway), if sykes can make the train on squad, shenton who is 3 times the centre sykes will ever be has to be above him in the pecking order or we need a new national coach.

: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:38 pm  

Gazemous wrote:

Judging by your sig, your opinions on the qualities of players and clubs are pretty questionable

In fairness he got 1, 2, 8, 13, 14 right.

: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:50 pm  

StuMain wrote:

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: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:13 pm  

Good news. Well done Shenny!

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: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:10 pm  

Shenton deserves his place no doubt.
The idea of the train on squad is to keep a group together that could be considered for the last 17.
For me, especially after Atkins is not available, you'd be hard pressed to find someone better.

I'd say Owen and Westerman....and to be honest Ferguson at Trinity are unlucky not to be in but are probably in a more competitive position.

: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:16 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Shenton deserves his place no doubt.
The idea of the train on squad is to keep a group together that could be considered for the last 17.
For me, especially after Atkins is not available, you'd be hard pressed to find someone better.

I'd say Owen and Westerman....and to be honest Ferguson at Trinity are unlucky not to be in but are probably in a more competitive position.

Would you say that ferguson is the most promising youngster at wakey? i've been very impressed with george this season. Took alot of work to stay in for his first try against catalans on sat. If he can stay injury free (has had knee problems i believe) he will pull on an england shirt one day.

: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:27 pm  

pyeman wrote:

Would you say that ferguson is the most promising youngster at wakey? i've been very impressed with george this season. Took alot of work to stay in for his first try against catalans on sat. If he can stay injury free (has had knee problems i believe) he will pull on an england shirt one day.

Playing 1st team rugby?? Yes, by far....his work rate is top notch and is developing when attacking, and already has a very good eye when it comes to the final ball, although is not given the opportunity (understandably when we have brough) to use it much at the mo!

George could (if can stay fit) become a very good winger, although l think longer term he will be a better centre, someone with pace and natural ability to time his runs and pick the right running angles.

: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:28 pm  

Without sounding biased, I can't believe Danny Brough is not in the squad.

I'd have put Westerman and Owen in too, even if they don't play, they would learn a lot from being around the camp.

: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:29 pm  

charlie wrote:

Without sounding biased, I can't believe Danny Brough is not in the squad.

I'd have put Westerman and Owen in too, even if they don't play, they would learn a lot from being around the camp.

Depends if Brough is eligible. Thought you had to allow for a year to pass before you were allowed to be considered for new nationality.

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: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:40 pm  

pyeman wrote:

Would you say that ferguson is the most promising youngster at wakey? i've been very impressed with george this season. Took alot of work to stay in for his first try against catalans on sat. If he can stay injury free (has had knee problems i believe) he will pull on an england shirt one day.

I agree with the "one day" part for George but he isn't there yet. He just hasn't had enough g ame time yet due to injuries.
I think Ferguson would do a good job right now and has more ahead of him.