Steve Gill - We stand on our own 2 feet : Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:22 pm  

Statement to put the record straight here :- http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=4001

Statement to put the record straight here :- http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=4001

Re: Steve Gill - We stand on our own 2 feet : Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:05 pm  

Tigerade wrote: Statement to put the record straight here :- http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=4001 Well done Steve Gill (Now we wait for Eieio or whatever he is on Wakey RLfans to arrive.)

Tigerade wrote: Statement to put the record straight here :- http://www.castigers.com/article.php?id=4001 Well done Steve Gill (Now we wait for Eieio or whatever he is on Wakey RLfans to arrive.)

Re: Steve Gill - We stand on our own 2 feet : Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:57 pm  

"I know a lot of you have been upset by a recent newspaper article suggesting we have had financial problems over the past few weeks. I want to make this statement as clear as I possibly can: Castleford Tigers has always stood on its own two feet. Even in the early months of 2013 when the vultures were hovering over us, our Chairman, Mr Jack Fulton stood up to be counted; he didn't ask for any help and pledged his support and love for our great club".
Isn't the same as standing on your own two feet is it?
By definition of the term would be that the business supports itself and doesnt need such showing of support from people such as Mr Fulton.
Its perhaps a point of pedantry but equally its also spin.
I'm sure i will now be laid waste by the forum rabble, but i think its a fair enough point of order.
That said the relative tranquility of the castleford tigers financial dealings is something us wakey fans can only dream to see soon.

Re: Steve Gill - We stand on our own 2 feet : Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:05 pm  

"Now we wait for Eieio or whatever he is on Wakey RLfans to arrive". A method in my madness.......

Re: Steve Gill - We stand on our own 2 feet : Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:21 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

"I know a lot of you have been upset by a recent newspaper article suggesting we have had financial problems over the past few weeks. I want to make this statement as clear as I possibly can: Castleford Tigers has always stood on its own two feet. Even in the early months of 2013 when the vultures were hovering over us, our Chairman, Mr Jack Fulton stood up to be counted; he didn't ask for any help and pledged his support and love for our great club".
Isn't the same as standing on your own two feet is it?
By definition of the term would be that the business supports itself and doesnt need such showing of support from people such as Mr Fulton.
Its perhaps a point of pedantry but equally its also spin.
I'm sure i will now be laid waste by the forum rabble, but i think its a fair enough point of order.
That said the relative tranquility of the castleford tigers financial dealings is something us wakey fans can only dream to see soon.

I thought that seeing as you have Andrew Glover as your owner you'd be in very good shape as he still has adverts for his conservatories on the TV every so often. Is he not the same as Jack Fulton in the way that he supports your club financially ? I hope that you will not be laid to waste by "the forum rabble " as there is no reason to as you are asking a perfectly reasonable question. Hopefully WTW will also have relative tranquility ( lovely phrase by the way ) as your club, and fans, have been through a lot recently and with your new ground the last thing you'd need is more financial problems.

Re: Steve Gill - We stand on our own 2 feet : Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:01 pm  

all top level sports clubs need help from their investors, none of them run merely off their own profits - I'd say Jack having a steady flow of money into the club isn't anything to bat an eyeld about really.

I am reasonably happy that, as Steve Gill says, struggling is different to failing, and I'm happy that the club is doing the former rather than the latter and spending within it's means

(which isn't a dig by the way, Kinley... more than just WTW in this big ol' world spend above their means, alas the repercussions affect more than just the club itself)

Re: Steve Gill - We stand on our own 2 feet : Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:10 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

"I know a lot of you have been upset by a recent newspaper article suggesting we have had financial problems over the past few weeks. I want to make this statement as clear as I possibly can: Castleford Tigers has always stood on its own two feet. Even in the early months of 2013 when the vultures were hovering over us, our Chairman, Mr Jack Fulton stood up to be counted; he didn't ask for any help and pledged his support and love for our great club".
Isn't the same as standing on your own two feet is it?
By definition of the term would be that the business supports itself and doesnt need such showing of support from people such as Mr Fulton.
Its perhaps a point of pedantry but equally its also spin.
I'm sure i will now be laid waste by the forum rabble, but i think its a fair enough point of order.
That said the relative tranquility of the castleford tigers financial dealings is something us wakey fans can only dream to see soon.

according to steve gill today we haven't had any money from jack for 7 months so that to me suggests we have been standing on our own 2 feet for that period of time

Re: Steve Gill - We stand on our own 2 feet : Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:23 am  

DAVE@CAS1990 wrote:

all top level sports clubs need help from their investors, none of them run merely off their own profits - I'd say Jack having a steady flow of money into the club isn't anything to bat an eyeld about really.

I am reasonably happy that, as Steve Gill says, struggling is different to failing, and I'm happy that the club is doing the former rather than the latter and spending within it's means

(which isn't a dig by the way, Kinley... more than just WTW in this big ol' world spend above their means, alas the repercussions affect more than just the club itself)

Completely agree Dave and certainly not taken as a dig.
Like i pointed out it was a point of pedantry, an observation on the spin that someone can put on something to make it credible and creditable.
The OP was about a comment made in answer to the article in Lge Exp i think about Cas being lumped in with all us other roustabouts, which i think was ungenerous, but equally without Mr Fulton's support (as indicated my Mr Gill) that may be a different story.
Like i said reletive tranquility is better than chaos every couple of years so good on Cas, your boat is more seaworthy than ours.

Re: Steve Gill - We stand on our own 2 feet : Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:25 am  

dodger666 wrote:

according to steve gill today we haven't had any money from jack for 7 months so that to me suggests we have been standing on our own 2 feet for that period of time

If that is the case then well done to Cas.

Re: Steve Gill - We stand on our own 2 feet : Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:27 am  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

I thought that seeing as you have Andrew Glover as your owner you'd be in very good shape as he still has adverts for his conservatories on the TV every so often. Is he not the same as Jack Fulton in the way that he supports your club financially ? I hope that you will not be laid to waste by "the forum rabble " as there is no reason to as you are asking a perfectly reasonable question. Hopefully WTW will also have relative tranquility ( lovely phrase by the way ) as your club, and fans, have been through a lot recently and with your new ground the last thing you'd need is more financial problems.

AFAIK Andrew Gover is not the owner of the club, however clearly you are/were correct as he still has a directors debt owed by the club.
We seem to be heading through the worst of it, although i don't think (or allow myself to think) that all the bad stuff is over, maybe one day!!