Re: Thierry alibet : Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:02 am  

DAVE@CAS1990 wrote:

absolutely Fumper. He lost all credibility at that point. I don't know how the Tomkins Knock-on at the end turned into a Wigan penalty - though for the same token McIllorum's disallowed try was grounded fine

The in goal judge told Alibert that the ball had been caught behind the line, so he was correct to change his decision and give the twenty metre tap.
On the penalty the Cas player was in front of Chase? when he went for the drop goal. I don't think Tomkins touched the ball but either way the Cas player was within 10 metres at the time.

It was Blake Green who had the try disallowed (maybe wrongly).

The overall penalty count was in Cas's favour,

Re: Thierry alibet : Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:19 pm  

... And the entire Wigan line, anticipating the DG attempt, were yards offside at the previous PTB. The cas player in front of chase was played on by Tomkins' knock on (we'll have to agree to disagree I suppose). Incidentally, Wigan's first two tries both had marginal passes in the build up (as marginal asthe ones Cas were penalised for) and their last try of the first half was scored off a final ball so forward a quarterback would have been proud of it. Those are the breaks with refereeing these days, but I think attempts to claim Wigan were just as hard done to on the day are going to fall largely on deaf ears in these parts.

Had it been Cas snatching it at the death I think I'd have been walking away whistling and counting my blessings. But in the end it was two decent teams with nothing between them, one of which got the very lucky breaks at the death. Pity it wasn't us.

Re: Thierry alibet : Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:03 pm  

yeah tomkins definitely touched it - though I can understand if Alibert missed it as he was in front of tomkins and I was watching from the side.

but hey-ho, bring on Hull...

Re: Thierry alibet : Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:42 pm  

It was a penalty because the Cas lads were within ten metres, so that's the first offence.

Something what needs clearing up is the charge down, some think it's back to one if they get the ball back, & some think the tackle count continues, in the two televised games it was wiped out back to one??

Re: Thierry alibet : Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:10 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

The overall penalty count was in Cas's favour,

Yes it was 8-6 nothing in it really.

Re: Thierry alibet : Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:22 pm  

frank5613 wrote:

It was a penalty because the Cas lads were within ten metres, so that's the first offence.

Something what needs clearing up is the charge down, some think it's back to one if they get the ball back, & some think the tackle count continues, in the two televised games it was wiped out back to one??

The charge down rule was trialed in the pre-season games but not adopted in the rule changes for this season. That's how the confusion has arisen, I was one of those who thought it had been.

Re: Thierry alibet : Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:04 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

The charge down rule was trialed in the pre-season games but not adopted in the rule changes for this season. That's how the confusion has arisen, I was one of those who thought it had been.

Some refs have enforced that rule during the season too, good to know that the RFL communicate these sort of things to the officials.

Re: Thierry alibet : Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:35 pm  

frank5613 wrote:

It was a penalty because the Cas lads were within ten metres, so that's the first offence.

Actually, the first offence in that play was Wigan standing a yard offside at the PTB which led to the DG attempt. Just because Halibut didn't see it doesn't mean it shouldn't have been given.

Re: Thierry alibet : Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:02 pm  

I agree disco but if you look at the ref i don't think he had any idea what was going on, he was going toward the defences line and then gave the penalty, so he must have had a call, but a lot off other things went on, what was let go, it was a definite penalty for the head high tackle, between their 30=40 mark,

Cummings has gone so they need to get some one in who is not one off the lads, and who is prepared to give them a right bolaking, when they get some decisions so badly wrong

Re: Thierry alibet : Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:31 pm  

2 weeks running a chip shot penalty to win the game hasn't been given, that's 3 points taken by the RFL already.