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Re: wakie fans : Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:46 pm  
TrinityIHC wrote:
Cas town centre is a dying on its backside, it's full of pound shops, charity shops and even a shop that sells what can only be described as garbage. The unemployment rate in Cas is higher than the national average with house prices significantly lower than the national average."

This information is already public knowledge, so using your logic no one should have a problem with it being typed here?

It's not about what he said, it's the fact that he felt the need to say it at all that has got peoples backs up.


Public knowledge, in this do you mean what you have made up ?


Poundshops .....Wakefield
Super Pound Store51-53 Kirkgate Town Centre, Wakefield
Poundworld,All Saints Walk Town Centre, Wakefield
Poundland,34 Kirkgate Town Centre, Wakefield
Pound Stop,8-10 Teall Street Town Centre, Wakefield
Pound Mpire,36 Kirkgate Town Centre,Wakefield
Pennywise,2 Zetland Street Town Centre,Wakefield

Poundshops .......Castleford
Everything a Pound, 56 Carlton Street,Castleford
Poundworld, 52 Carlton Street, Castleford

Charity shops ....... Wake
approx 9 See Here

Charity shops ........Cas
approx 5 See Here


Well just to pisss on ye bonfire a tadge, from the national office of stats, correct at Oct 11

Over the last twelve months, the district's claimant count increased by 11.5% (921), compared with 10.5% nationally. Over the
same period, the number of job seekers has risen in all Wakefield's 21 wards. The claimant count as a proportion of the
resident working age population continues to be highest around central Wakefield and former coalfield areas and small area
data shows that in some neighbourhoods over 13% of the working age population are out of work and claiming JSA

The GB average is 4.6% so out of the wards in the castleford area only one is above the national average, where as wakefield wards number 3 above national average and one on par, so a little more wee on your coals
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National Average House Prices Mmmm Lets see

Region
Monthly change (since September 2011)
Annual change (since October 2010)
Average price (October 2011)

East 0.7% -2.4% £173,410
East Midlands 0.4% -3.1% £123,811
Yorkshire & The Humber 0.4% -3.6% £120,526
South East 0.2% -1.4% £206,818
South West -0.4% -2.9% £171,384
West Midlands -0.7% -4.1% £129,500
England & Wales, -0.9% -3.2% £159,999
Source Land Registry
So onto Wake and Cas
Summary of Properties Sold in Wakefield in September 2011
Total properties sold: 85
Average price of properties sold: £147,892


Property Sale Prices by Type in Wakefield in September 2011
No. of properties Average* price Median* price
Flat 7 £84,850 £85,000
Detached 23 £218,188 £220,000
Semi-detached 35 £138,730 £125,000
Terraced 20 £105,148 £103,000


Summary of Properties Sold in Castleford in September 2011
Total properties sold: 34
Average price of properties sold: £109,925


Property Sale Prices by Type in Castleford in September 2011
No. of properties Average* price Median* price
Flat - -
Detached 3 £194,500 £211,000
Semi-detached 14 £128,435 £127,500
Terraced 17 £79,756 £80,000

So in one of your statements you are correct that prices are higher in polecat city, but this is only because of higher terraced house prices it seems

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TrinityIHC wrote:
Cas town centre is a dying on its backside, it's full of pound shops, charity shops and even a shop that sells what can only be described as garbage. The unemployment rate in Cas is higher than the national average with house prices significantly lower than the national average."

This information is already public knowledge, so using your logic no one should have a problem with it being typed here?

It's not about what he said, it's the fact that he felt the need to say it at all that has got peoples backs up.


Public knowledge, in this do you mean what you have made up ?


Poundshops .....Wakefield
Super Pound Store51-53 Kirkgate Town Centre, Wakefield
Poundworld,All Saints Walk Town Centre, Wakefield
Poundland,34 Kirkgate Town Centre, Wakefield
Pound Stop,8-10 Teall Street Town Centre, Wakefield
Pound Mpire,36 Kirkgate Town Centre,Wakefield
Pennywise,2 Zetland Street Town Centre,Wakefield

Poundshops .......Castleford
Everything a Pound, 56 Carlton Street,Castleford
Poundworld, 52 Carlton Street, Castleford

Charity shops ....... Wake
approx 9 See Here

Charity shops ........Cas
approx 5 See Here


Well just to pisss on ye bonfire a tadge, from the national office of stats, correct at Oct 11

Over the last twelve months, the district's claimant count increased by 11.5% (921), compared with 10.5% nationally. Over the
same period, the number of job seekers has risen in all Wakefield's 21 wards. The claimant count as a proportion of the
resident working age population continues to be highest around central Wakefield and former coalfield areas and small area
data shows that in some neighbourhoods over 13% of the working age population are out of work and claiming JSA

The GB average is 4.6% so out of the wards in the castleford area only one is above the national average, where as wakefield wards number 3 above national average and one on par, so a little more wee on your coals
View Here

National Average House Prices Mmmm Lets see

Region
Monthly change (since September 2011)
Annual change (since October 2010)
Average price (October 2011)

East 0.7% -2.4% £173,410
East Midlands 0.4% -3.1% £123,811
Yorkshire & The Humber 0.4% -3.6% £120,526
South East 0.2% -1.4% £206,818
South West -0.4% -2.9% £171,384
West Midlands -0.7% -4.1% £129,500
England & Wales, -0.9% -3.2% £159,999
Source Land Registry
So onto Wake and Cas
Summary of Properties Sold in Wakefield in September 2011
Total properties sold: 85
Average price of properties sold: £147,892


Property Sale Prices by Type in Wakefield in September 2011
No. of properties Average* price Median* price
Flat 7 £84,850 £85,000
Detached 23 £218,188 £220,000
Semi-detached 35 £138,730 £125,000
Terraced 20 £105,148 £103,000


Summary of Properties Sold in Castleford in September 2011
Total properties sold: 34
Average price of properties sold: £109,925


Property Sale Prices by Type in Castleford in September 2011
No. of properties Average* price Median* price
Flat - -
Detached 3 £194,500 £211,000
Semi-detached 14 £128,435 £127,500
Terraced 17 £79,756 £80,000

So in one of your statements you are correct that prices are higher in polecat city, but this is only because of higher terraced house prices it seems

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Re: wakie fans : Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:57 am  
Speedy, this is not the place to be factually correct! You should be posting opinions as 'facts' and back that up with "...FACT" every time, that way we know it must be true! Now, play the game, there's a good chap!
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Re: wakie fans : Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:17 am  
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TrinityIHC wrote:
Cas town centre is a dying on its backside, it's full of pound shops, charity shops and even a shop that sells what can only be described as garbage. The unemployment rate in Cas is higher than the national average with house prices significantly lower than the national average."

This information is already public knowledge, so using your logic no one should have a problem with it being typed here?

It's not about what he said, it's the fact that he felt the need to say it at all that has got peoples backs up.


<some very interesting research, showing a wee bit too much time on ones hands>

HTH, have a lovely dayImage


For starters find anywhere I compared Cas with Wakey?

In addition it shouldn't come as any surprise to you that Wakefield has more pound shops because (wait for it) it's a bigger city. You should be more worried about what you don't have - ie shops that will draw people and get them spending.

M&S? Argos? Debenhams? Game? H&M? Primark? Modern bus station? - there isn't even a McD's and they'll build them anywhere!

I could go on and on, and whilst it is valiant of you to try and defend Cas, you need to take off your blinkers - it's a ghost town. I'm not one of these people who is so into the rugby rivalry that I start to dislike areas based on what sports teams play there - it's plain for all to see what state Cas town centre is in. It's sad really as I can remember it being quite vibrant not too long ago.

If you want to carry on with your research however, try working out what percentage of shops in Cas are pound shops/tat shops/charity shops, then cross reference that with percentage of Wakefield shops that are the same.
Speedy wrote:
TrinityIHC wrote:
Cas town centre is a dying on its backside, it's full of pound shops, charity shops and even a shop that sells what can only be described as garbage. The unemployment rate in Cas is higher than the national average with house prices significantly lower than the national average."

This information is already public knowledge, so using your logic no one should have a problem with it being typed here?

It's not about what he said, it's the fact that he felt the need to say it at all that has got peoples backs up.


<some very interesting research, showing a wee bit too much time on ones hands>

HTH, have a lovely dayImage


For starters find anywhere I compared Cas with Wakey?

In addition it shouldn't come as any surprise to you that Wakefield has more pound shops because (wait for it) it's a bigger city. You should be more worried about what you don't have - ie shops that will draw people and get them spending.

M&S? Argos? Debenhams? Game? H&M? Primark? Modern bus station? - there isn't even a McD's and they'll build them anywhere!

I could go on and on, and whilst it is valiant of you to try and defend Cas, you need to take off your blinkers - it's a ghost town. I'm not one of these people who is so into the rugby rivalry that I start to dislike areas based on what sports teams play there - it's plain for all to see what state Cas town centre is in. It's sad really as I can remember it being quite vibrant not too long ago.

If you want to carry on with your research however, try working out what percentage of shops in Cas are pound shops/tat shops/charity shops, then cross reference that with percentage of Wakefield shops that are the same.
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Re: wakie fans : Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:31 am  
Lets not forget its not just castleford that are struggling in the town Centre.

On a BBC report i saw on tv afew days back rotherham, which is bigger than both towns (cas/wakey) is also on its knees.

Also after visiting sheffield 3 weeks ago to do a bit of xmas shopping they also have a multitude of pound shops and charity shops.
Its not that long ago sheffield had 2 massive markets its now got one with half the stalls empty.
So just to point a finger at cas is just being silly, its happening everywhere, even big citys.

Tbh what can castleford do when it is ran by a council coming out of WAKEFIELD. We have no chance.
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Re: wakie fans : Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:00 am  
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liedetector wrote:
The poster could be 7 year old for all anyone knows, they could have learning difficulties, or they may just struggle due to dyslexia or poor education, so show some class they got their point over. My written english is far from perfect, but for someone to pick out mistakes shows first of all a superiority complex, ( look at me im cleverer than you) :? but fotunately we are not writing for a English exam, were on a forum!
As the old saying goes he without sin cast the first stone. As for the post. I agree Wakey fans seem obssessed and very touchy on RW for saying nothing that people dont already know. Dont forget this PI isnt about WTWC or whatever they are called after their latest liquidation, but its about a site much much larger and one on greenbelt land used for warehousing that isnt needed.


"Cas town centre is a dying on its backside, it's full of pound shops, charity shops and even a shop that sells what can only be described as garbage. The unemployment rate in Cas is higher than the national average with house prices significantly lower than the national average."

This information is already public knowledge, so using your logic no one should have a problem with it being typed here?

It's not about what he said, it's the fact that he felt the need to say it at all that has got peoples backs up.



Right I jumped in too and made an ass of myself so Cas dudes stop and understand what TrinityIHC said and its context.

He used and example of saying something that is common Knowledge ( The state of employment and the poor state of retail shopping in Cas ) we all know this is true ( he didnt compare it with Wakefield).

He then with the help of us lot proved the last paragraph to be correct, IE By saying it when he didn't need to got peoples backs up and we all jumped in size 12s and all.

Now the reason he did this was to explain why the Wakey fans reacted as they did when RW said what he said

Hope this make sense and stops the drivel thats been posted since

And my 2 pence on the whole situation as it is NOW

RW was wrong to get involved! RW is panicing because he Knows that the club only have about a 10% chance of pulling the Supermarket off.
RW knows that in March/April the land WR sits on will be designated for Housing
RW Knows we will either have to share at NM or at The Keepmoat untill the housing market picks up
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Re: wakie fans : Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:50 am  
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TrinityIHC wrote:
liedetector wrote:
The poster could be 7 year old for all anyone knows, they could have learning difficulties, or they may just struggle due to dyslexia or poor education, so show some class they got their point over. My written english is far from perfect, but for someone to pick out mistakes shows first of all a superiority complex, ( look at me im cleverer than you) :? but fotunately we are not writing for a English exam, were on a forum!
As the old saying goes he without sin cast the first stone. As for the post. I agree Wakey fans seem obssessed and very touchy on RW for saying nothing that people dont already know. Dont forget this PI isnt about WTWC or whatever they are called after their latest liquidation, but its about a site much much larger and one on greenbelt land used for warehousing that isnt needed.


"Cas town centre is a dying on its backside, it's full of pound shops, charity shops and even a shop that sells what can only be described as garbage. The unemployment rate in Cas is higher than the national average with house prices significantly lower than the national average."

This information is already public knowledge, so using your logic no one should have a problem with it being typed here?

It's not about what he said, it's the fact that he felt the need to say it at all that has got peoples backs up.



Right I jumped in too and made an ass of myself so Cas dudes stop and understand what TrinityIHC said and its context.

He used and example of saying something that is common Knowledge ( The state of employment and the poor state of retail shopping in Cas ) we all know this is true ( he didnt compare it with Wakefield).

He then with the help of us lot proved the last paragraph to be correct, IE By saying it when he didn't need to got peoples backs up and we all jumped in size 12s and all.

Now the reason he did this was to explain why the Wakey fans reacted as they did when RW said what he said

Hope this make sense and stops the drivel thats been posted since

And my 2 pence on the whole situation as it is NOW

RW was wrong to get involved! RW is panicing because he Knows that the club only have about a 10% chance of pulling the Supermarket off.
RW knows that in March/April the land WR sits on will be designated for Housing
RW Knows we will either have to share at NM or at The Keepmoat untill the housing market picks up


I too believe that we will be groundsharing from 2014/2015 in the hope that GH will eventually be built and that a license will be retained/awarded on that basis. Either that or we find WR is unsellable at the necessary price and we're playing in the Championship.
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Re: wakie fans : Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:55 am  
TrinityIHC wrote:
Speedy wrote:
TrinityIHC wrote:
Cas town centre is a dying on its backside, it's full of pound shops, charity shops and even a shop that sells what can only be described as garbage. The unemployment rate in Cas is higher than the national average with house prices significantly lower than the national average."

This information is already public knowledge, so using your logic no one should have a problem with it being typed here?

It's not about what he said, it's the fact that he felt the need to say it at all that has got peoples backs up.


<some very interesting research, showing a wee bit too much time on ones hands>

HTH, have a lovely dayImage


For starters find anywhere I compared Cas with Wakey?

In addition it shouldn't come as any surprise to you that Wakefield has more pound shops because (wait for it) it's a bigger city. You should be more worried about what you don't have - ie shops that will draw people and get them spending.

M&S? Argos? Debenhams? Game? H&M? Primark? Modern bus station? - there isn't even a McD's and they'll build them anywhere!

I could go on and on, and whilst it is valiant of you to try and defend Cas, you need to take off your blinkers - it's a ghost town. I'm not one of these people who is so into the rugby rivalry that I start to dislike areas based on what sports teams play there - it's plain for all to see what state Cas town centre is in. It's sad really as I can remember it being quite vibrant not too long ago.

If you want to carry on with your research however, try working out what percentage of shops in Cas are pound shops/tat shops/charity shops, then cross reference that with percentage of Wakefield shops that are the same.


You said its full of pound shops,not me, You said the unemployment was worse than the national average so as your a polecat fan i compared it with polecat city, if you'd have been a fallihax or shudds fan id have done the same,

But you along with many of your fellow polecat fans continually spout cas is full of pound shops, so dont make statements that are lies, simple as

I dont need to carry on with my research, your statement is completely infactual, but as you say its public knowledge, eh

Now have a nice day and try harder theres a good little chappy :SUBMISSION: :SUBMISSION:
TrinityIHC wrote:
Speedy wrote:
TrinityIHC wrote:
Cas town centre is a dying on its backside, it's full of pound shops, charity shops and even a shop that sells what can only be described as garbage. The unemployment rate in Cas is higher than the national average with house prices significantly lower than the national average."

This information is already public knowledge, so using your logic no one should have a problem with it being typed here?

It's not about what he said, it's the fact that he felt the need to say it at all that has got peoples backs up.


<some very interesting research, showing a wee bit too much time on ones hands>

HTH, have a lovely dayImage


For starters find anywhere I compared Cas with Wakey?

In addition it shouldn't come as any surprise to you that Wakefield has more pound shops because (wait for it) it's a bigger city. You should be more worried about what you don't have - ie shops that will draw people and get them spending.

M&S? Argos? Debenhams? Game? H&M? Primark? Modern bus station? - there isn't even a McD's and they'll build them anywhere!

I could go on and on, and whilst it is valiant of you to try and defend Cas, you need to take off your blinkers - it's a ghost town. I'm not one of these people who is so into the rugby rivalry that I start to dislike areas based on what sports teams play there - it's plain for all to see what state Cas town centre is in. It's sad really as I can remember it being quite vibrant not too long ago.

If you want to carry on with your research however, try working out what percentage of shops in Cas are pound shops/tat shops/charity shops, then cross reference that with percentage of Wakefield shops that are the same.


You said its full of pound shops,not me, You said the unemployment was worse than the national average so as your a polecat fan i compared it with polecat city, if you'd have been a fallihax or shudds fan id have done the same,

But you along with many of your fellow polecat fans continually spout cas is full of pound shops, so dont make statements that are lies, simple as

I dont need to carry on with my research, your statement is completely infactual, but as you say its public knowledge, eh

Now have a nice day and try harder theres a good little chappy :SUBMISSION: :SUBMISSION:
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Re: wakie fans : Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:09 pm  
Bit of a reality check required, I think.

Like it or not, the choice of shops is a measure of economic strength. Locally, neither Cas or Wakefield can compete with Leeds. The inward investment over recent years has been huge, certainly since the transfer of the DHS. This has been laid by a forward-thinking council. Initially Labour controlled, but latterly a coalition. Other cities and towns have not had such.
This is clearly evidenced by two completely seperate projects, concerning the same requirement (sports stadia) within one motorway junction in the district.
One effect of this is passionate supporters arguing with one another over Poundshops.

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Re: wakie fans : Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:31 pm  
Speedy wrote:
TrinityIHC wrote:
Speedy wrote:
TrinityIHC wrote:
Cas town centre is a dying on its backside, it's full of pound shops, charity shops and even a shop that sells what can only be described as garbage. The unemployment rate in Cas is higher than the national average with house prices significantly lower than the national average."

This information is already public knowledge, so using your logic no one should have a problem with it being typed here?

It's not about what he said, it's the fact that he felt the need to say it at all that has got peoples backs up.


<some very interesting research, showing a wee bit too much time on ones hands>

HTH, have a lovely dayImage


For starters find anywhere I compared Cas with Wakey?

In addition it shouldn't come as any surprise to you that Wakefield has more pound shops because (wait for it) it's a bigger city. You should be more worried about what you don't have - ie shops that will draw people and get them spending.

M&S? Argos? Debenhams? Game? H&M? Primark? Modern bus station? - there isn't even a McD's and they'll build them anywhere!

I could go on and on, and whilst it is valiant of you to try and defend Cas, you need to take off your blinkers - it's a ghost town. I'm not one of these people who is so into the rugby rivalry that I start to dislike areas based on what sports teams play there - it's plain for all to see what state Cas town centre is in. It's sad really as I can remember it being quite vibrant not too long ago.

If you want to carry on with your research however, try working out what percentage of shops in Cas are pound shops/tat shops/charity shops, then cross reference that with percentage of Wakefield shops that are the same.


You said its full of pound shops,not me, You said the unemployment was worse than the national average so as your a polecat fan i compared it with polecat city, if you'd have been a fallihax or shudds fan id have done the same,

But you along with many of your fellow polecat fans continually spout cas is full of pound shops, so dont make statements that are lies, simple as

I dont need to carry on with my research, your statement is completely infactual, but as you say its public knowledge, eh

Now have a nice day and try harder theres a good little chappy :SUBMISSION: :SUBMISSION:


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Speedy wrote:
TrinityIHC wrote:
Speedy wrote:
TrinityIHC wrote:
Cas town centre is a dying on its backside, it's full of pound shops, charity shops and even a shop that sells what can only be described as garbage. The unemployment rate in Cas is higher than the national average with house prices significantly lower than the national average."

This information is already public knowledge, so using your logic no one should have a problem with it being typed here?

It's not about what he said, it's the fact that he felt the need to say it at all that has got peoples backs up.


<some very interesting research, showing a wee bit too much time on ones hands>

HTH, have a lovely dayImage


For starters find anywhere I compared Cas with Wakey?

In addition it shouldn't come as any surprise to you that Wakefield has more pound shops because (wait for it) it's a bigger city. You should be more worried about what you don't have - ie shops that will draw people and get them spending.

M&S? Argos? Debenhams? Game? H&M? Primark? Modern bus station? - there isn't even a McD's and they'll build them anywhere!

I could go on and on, and whilst it is valiant of you to try and defend Cas, you need to take off your blinkers - it's a ghost town. I'm not one of these people who is so into the rugby rivalry that I start to dislike areas based on what sports teams play there - it's plain for all to see what state Cas town centre is in. It's sad really as I can remember it being quite vibrant not too long ago.

If you want to carry on with your research however, try working out what percentage of shops in Cas are pound shops/tat shops/charity shops, then cross reference that with percentage of Wakefield shops that are the same.


You said its full of pound shops,not me, You said the unemployment was worse than the national average so as your a polecat fan i compared it with polecat city, if you'd have been a fallihax or shudds fan id have done the same,

But you along with many of your fellow polecat fans continually spout cas is full of pound shops, so dont make statements that are lies, simple as

I dont need to carry on with my research, your statement is completely infactual, but as you say its public knowledge, eh

Now have a nice day and try harder theres a good little chappy :SUBMISSION: :SUBMISSION:


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