FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Walmsley
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain825
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 19 20159 years268th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
17th May 24 16:2016th May 24 09:44LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Walmsley : Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:12 pm  
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... x-27906916

if wakefield are no longer in SL then the SL get out clause does not stand does it so is a fee due what are chances of Wakey paying this.
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... x-27906916

if wakefield are no longer in SL then the SL get out clause does not stand does it so is a fee due what are chances of Wakey paying this.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star4658
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 05 201113 years103rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th May 24 08:0018th May 24 21:06LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Shuddersfield
Signature
Hear All, See All, Say Nowt.
Eat All, Sup All, Pay Nowt.
And if Tha ever does Owt for Nowt,
Allus do it for Thissen.

Re: Walmsley : Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:30 pm  
Wakefield have a millionaire owner so if they want him make them pay a decent fee for a 30 try a season winger. If they won't come up with the goods, stuff 'em! Unfortunately due to that statement i can't see Walmsley playing for Fax again. He says he loves Halifax, but not enough apparently, to honour his contract. There will be other clubs in for him i'm sure but it's a sad indictment of where we are when a club like Wakefield can outbid us.
RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player709No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 22 20213 years110th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th May 24 16:448th May 24 15:33LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Walmsley : Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:38 pm  
I wouldn't sell him to anyone in the championship. He can either see out his contract and then go were he wants or find a super league club who are happy to do a deal for him.
faxcar 
RankPostsTeam
International Star4280
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 26 201014 years80th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th May 24 22:4418th May 24 13:26LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Walmsley : Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:19 pm  
That’s the same link that was posted in the other thread and changes nothing.

Wakefield aren’t a Super League club so they can’t trigger any release clause.

Fax aren’t bidding against Wakefield to sign him he’s already a Fax player who has 12 months left on his contract and well done to them for getting that in place, but there aren’t many clubs in the Championship who have a millionaire backer who’s new on the scene ready to spend who could compete with them and is just a true reflection of the financial status of the majority of clubs below Super League rather than some slur against Fax.

The club know better than anybody what he’s capable of and all the pro’s and cons and implications on and off the field of whether he stays or goes but if he does any club who he goes to will have to pay.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9362
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 18 200519 years56th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th May 24 21:3418th May 24 07:07LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature

"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."― Albert Einstein


"Everybody gets so much information all day long that they lose their common sense." ― Gertrude Stein


"Don't believe everything you read on the internet" ― Abraham Lincoln

Re: Walmsley : Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:44 am  
As it stands because Wakefield are classed as a SL team until the SL contracts expire for the season they would have to pay the fee that is in his contract and as Fax have allowed him to speak to Wakefield it looks like we are quite willing to let him go. The issue looks to be that Wakefield are purposfully waiting until they are not classed as a SL team to avoid paying this fee in the hope that they can unsettle him and Fax will eventually let him leave for pennies(or at least a lot less than the fee in the contract). Fax now have to hope that there is interest from another SL team(by all accounts there isn't more than likely down to this fixed fee) otherwise things could get messy.

I can see this one going to a tribunal where the likely outcome would be a ruling in favor of Wakefield as they are able to offer him full time employment and better facilities. Either way Fax are looking likely to get screwed over.
faxcar 
RankPostsTeam
International Star4280
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 26 201014 years80th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th May 24 22:4418th May 24 13:26LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Walmsley : Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:34 am  
It must be a SL team who triggers the release clause as per the signed contract.
If Wakefield are judged to be a Super League team when they have made their approach which officially must be through the club then they must pay the sum specified in the contract.

They can’t have it both ways and say they are SL so can trigger the release but then they aren’t SL so don’t have to pay the fee it’s is all part of Walmsley’s contact, without the fee there is no release.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member6347
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 22 200122 years159th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th May 24 11:4919th May 24 09:37LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Halifax, the sleeping giants of Rugby League
Signature
AM I RIGHT? I'M NOT WRONG!

Re: Walmsley : Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:28 am  
My take on this, is that Wakey have failed to sign Walmsley whilst they were SL so now that status has passed, the SL clause is no longer applicable, irrespective as to whether they "started" talks or not - surely that's irrelevant, it's not written down in black and white!

But if Walmsley doesn't want to stay then just let him go to Wakey, as long as they pay through the nose to sign him. We don't want players who don't want to be here, no matter how good they are.
faxcar 
RankPostsTeam
International Star4280
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 26 201014 years80th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th May 24 22:4418th May 24 13:26LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Walmsley : Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:51 am  
Yes this has been previously mentioned in the other Walmsley thread, there is the legal side regarding the contract ( which as per usual with the RFL isn’t clear ) and the personal side regarding the player involved to take into consideration.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star1039No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 14 201410 years158th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th May 24 11:2915th May 24 08:17LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Walmsley : Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:09 am  
If he is offered more money he will move to another club regardless of whether it is championship or SL. It’s his job and we all want to be paid more.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star4658
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 05 201113 years103rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th May 24 08:0018th May 24 21:06LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Shuddersfield
Signature
Hear All, See All, Say Nowt.
Eat All, Sup All, Pay Nowt.
And if Tha ever does Owt for Nowt,
Allus do it for Thissen.

Re: Walmsley : Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:14 am  
Faxlore wrote:
If he is offered more money he will move to another club regardless of whether it is championship or SL. It’s his job and we all want to be paid more.

His contract runs for another 12 months.
Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Equinox, Ilkley Fax, Silver Bullitt, Wilf Grimshaw and 114 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Halifax Panthers


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Swinton Lions
1315trinity
72
4m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
58510
5m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
36561
7m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
mwindass
1507
20m
Sheffield H
Peter Goddar
15
26m
Matty russell 2 month loan
leeds owl
29
40m
Going down
Ilkley Fax
11
49m
Todays game v Giants
just_browny
35
51m
HKR CC semi-final
Big Steve
52
Recent
Danny Walker
Howfenwire
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
40s
HKR CC semi-final
Big Steve
52
43s
TV Games - Not Hull
Armavinit
1794
46s
Shay rent
Tony Fax
32
47s
Todays game v Giants
just_browny
35
50s
Ticket for the final
Dr Dreadnoug
64
1m
Tai Fighter
fez1
3
1m
Fans Forum
dboy
43
1m
Kais Off
Cokey
16
1m
Fitzgibbon
morleys_deck
124
1m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Jason65
2199
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Danny Walker
Howfenwire
2
TODAY
Tai Fighter
fez1
3
TODAY
Rowdy Roddy Tai-per
morleys_deck
5
TODAY
So What end are we in
matt_wire
2
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Destroy Huddersfield To Secure Wembley Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leeds Rhinos To Meet Saints At Wembley In Womens Challenge Cup Final
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Todays game v Giants
just_browny
35
TODAY
Tommy Makinson leaving Saints
Mr Snoodle
4
TODAY
Kais Off
Cokey
16
TODAY
Walters
MattyB
12
TODAY
Wire SL Coaches in a Word
TF and the w
4
TODAY
Problems using this Website
Wires71
5
TODAY
Easy Does It As Wigan Thrash Hull KR To Get To Wembley
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
St Helens Cruise Past York Valkyrie To Make Wembley Final
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Semi Final
[Gareth]
3
TODAY
Matty Ashurst Testimonial Event
TrinityHerit
1
TODAY
Fans Forum
dboy
43
TODAY
Off contract
Dannyboywt1
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Destroy Hudd..
285
Leeds Rhinos To Meet Saints At..
227
Easy Does It As Wigan Thrash H..
454
St Helens Cruise Past York Val..
300
Katherine Jenkins OBE to perfo..
1180
London Broncos First Win Of 20..
1480
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhino..
1419
Wigan Warriors Sensational Sec..
1378
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford..
1538
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hu..
1616
Widnes Vikings Win Thriller Ag..
2609
Leigh Leopards and Castleford ..
2939
Simple Rhinos Victory Compound..
2065
Stunning Second Half Sees Wiga..
2331
Leeds Rhinos Battle Hard for W..
4114
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist