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Re: IMG Does the club have a Plan? : Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:15 am  
Greg Florimos Boots wrote:
Just to confirm, the only thing that is based on a 3 year average is the on field performance isnt it? Our board saying different though. Again suggests flaws in the grading system when even teams seem to not fully understand how things work.

Our finances are clearly a mess though but i think a lot of us suspected that.


No, just about everything is based on a 3 year average (catchment area being one that's not but that's extremely unlikely to change anyway). I'm not sure why there should be any confusion, as it's clearly stated in the grading handbook.
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Re: IMG Does the club have a Plan? : Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:26 am  
Greg Florimos Boots wrote:
The Bradford breakdown for anyone interested:-

Performance 2.17/5
Fandom 3.95/5
Finances 2.75/4.5
Stadium 0.89/3
Community 2.25/2.5

We beat them on performance with the league averages and the cup win.

I thought we would beat them on Stadium but maybe not and I wonder if its on a technicality surrounding the sponsors seats otherwise we should have the full 1.5 Facilities score. We don't get much for utilisation and nothing for Primacy of Tenure but the Bulls may score highly on utilisation given their manipulated attendances and closure of part of the terracing. We did get the big screen bonus though. :lol:
For community we do badly but thats pretty much out of our hands, the catchment area top threshold is set at a random 260k level which surprise, surprise Bradford just get in to make full points along with the foundation where they score 0.75 points. We are 1.75 points behind them on that alone and can do nothing about it which is ridiculous.

So with been 3 points behind them and beating them slightly on performance and stadium We must beapprox 1.5-1.75 points behind them split between finances and fandom.


Just quoting for comparison purposes:-

Fax
Performance 2.39/5
Fandom 3.2/5
Finances 0.55/4.5
Stadium 1.67/3
Community 1.25/2.5

I guess its like what we expected and looking at the grades the club has done well on the Fandom score although I think the reality is that Bradford's score will come down next season in this respect due to reasons that Fev alluded to in their statement. Again though they do get a lot more fans than us which will translate in to clicks so we have done pretty well to be so close to them.
Community as mentioned we can't do anything about this really and this is the most ridiculous pillar in the gradings. Stadium wise it does look like we got the full 1.5 score for the facilities along with the big screen bonus and the rest made up on utilisation.
Leaves us with finances which we have the lowest score that we have seen any club given which is obviously a worry but we could spin it and say that with some investment we have the potential to make a lot of points up here on our competitors.

Overall I know Matt Shaw likes to be a bit of a drama queen at times and in the article calls for Fax fans to get real, I think the majority of Fax fans see ourselves as miles off a SL club but promotion and relegation did at least give us hope, I mean going in to this season I can't have been the only fan who had thought we had a sneaky outside chance of promotion can I. London eventually went up so it shows that it was in fact possible. Now you look at our scores in this system and tell me where we find 4 points from that turns us from a low B to a borderline SL club.

Our scores on performance, fandom, stadium, and community are not so far off been the max that we can achieve due to different restrictions and finances just been in the championship is quite restrictive in itself. You take all that in to consideration and its very clear to see that a team like ours is not supposed to be in the top flight under the new system.
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Re: IMG Does the club have a Plan? : Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:29 am  
Mr Dog wrote:
No, just about everything is based on a 3 year average (catchment area being one that's not but that's extremely unlikely to change anyway). I'm not sure why there should be any confusion, as it's clearly stated in the grading handbook.


Thanks for confirming, I'm just going over the handbook again and I'd got a little confused as to what was for the full 3 years and what isn't. Like the bonuses for winning cups only counts the current season which seems a tad unfair and a strange way to do things when like you say other things are judged on the full 3 years.
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Re: IMG Does the club have a Plan? : Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:11 am  
The current board haven’t really had the the time to have an impact on the finances as of yet , they did state that they would try and get more sponsors involved which I’ve heard is going to happen , whether these new sponsors eventually become shareholders remains to be seen but there is potentially exciting times ahead if they do . I believe croads involvement with the club ends at the end of the month with regards the shop etc . I’m on the fence with the img thing but tbh it doesn’t change a great deal , Halifax are a club that could grow with investment but ultimately we’ve been a championship club for sometime. The thing that will be problematic is when for example Wakefield play Widnes/york/fax/ fev in the final even if Wakefield lose they still go up , just looks daft .
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Re: IMG Does the club have a Plan? : Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:17 am  
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The current board haven’t really had the the time to have an impact on the finances as of yet , they did state that they would try and get more sponsors involved which I’ve heard is going to happen , whether these new sponsors eventually become shareholders remains to be seen but there is potentially exciting times ahead if they do . I believe croads involvement with the club ends at the end of the month with regards the shop etc . I’m on the fence with the img thing but tbh it doesn’t change a great deal , Halifax are a club that could grow with investment but ultimately we’ve been a championship club for sometime. The thing that will be problematic is when for example Wakefield play Widnes/york/fax/ fev in the final even if Wakefield lose they still go up , just looks daft .

Your not supposed to mention the shop. :lol:
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Re: IMG Does the club have a Plan? : Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:29 pm  
Whatever you don’t mention who’s names will and won’t be on the new kit. :wink:

Although Davies might pretty safe. :lol:
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Re: IMG Does the club have a Plan? : Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:12 pm  
It doesn’t really matter what I say on this forum, ultimately it’s not 1987 , we aren’t burning our lips on hot tomato soup in a polystyrene cup , we’re not urinating in two inch of mickey saying get em onside and forrad pass . Rugby league probably belongs on a sketch from back to the future.
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Re: IMG Does the club have a Plan? : Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:47 am  
Widnes Scores in comparison:-
Performance 1.72/5
Fandom 3.3/5
Finances 2.25/4.5
Stadium 1.9/3
Community 1/2.5

Fax
Performance 2.39/5
Fandom 3.2/5
Finances 0.55/4.5
Stadium 1.67/3
Community 1.25/2.5

Again shows we do pretty well Fandom wise and Widnes only beat us on Stadium because of Primacy of Tenure. The elephant in the room is obviously the finances and I would love to see a breakdown of ours. We obviously score the 0.3 on the Turnover % and presume we don't run at 1m in debt every year so we should get the 0.25 on Adjusted Profit. That leaves a lot of questions on the other sections.
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Re: IMG Does the club have a Plan? : Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:28 pm  
New CEO appointed by the club with among other things IMG in mind.

https://halifaxpanthers.co.uk/panthers- ... thers-ceo/
New CEO appointed by the club with among other things IMG in mind.

https://halifaxpanthers.co.uk/panthers- ... thers-ceo/
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Re: IMG Does the club have a Plan? : Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:17 am  
Lets hope his next signing is a wizard accountant because i think he will need one . Wish him luck in his endeavours
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