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Re: Round 7 Barrow vs Halifax : Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:54 am  
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I agree about knowing what type of player springer was before Simon signed him and the same could be said of Doro. I could only guess that he thought he could change them . And lets not forget springer spent a number of years in a fulltime environment in super league being coached by the likes of Daryl Powel so if they couldn't change him why would Simon be able to especially in a part time role.

I believe these comments about changing a player doesn’t make sense to me as if it is Grix’s fault. It is the player’s responsibility to play for his coach and the style that coach wants. Turn all your arguments around. The player is signing for a club and is aware of how the coach works and what the coach wants. The player will speak to established players at the club and now what the coach is about. If the new player then refuses to listen to his new coach and adapt their game to suit the game plans and playing ethos of the club then they are creating a problem in the game plan/relationship between coach and players/the club overall. When that happens they need to go no matter how good they are perceived to be.
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Re: Round 7 Barrow vs Halifax : Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:04 am  
How we lost this i do not know. Resting players from a winning team which was going well
I have no idea why Doro is not been played but Will is. He brins nothing to the team. We need props who will make an impact and Will can not do that

Hopefully back to normal Sunday but we need forwards asap
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Re: Round 7 Barrow vs Halifax : Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:13 am  
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I believe these comments about changing a player doesn’t make sense to me as if it is Grix’s fault. It is the player’s responsibility to play for his coach and the style that coach wants. Turn all your arguments around. The player is signing for a club and is aware of how the coach works and what the coach wants. The player will speak to established players at the club and now what the coach is about. If the new player then refuses to listen to his new coach and adapt their game to suit the game plans and playing ethos of the club then they are creating a problem in the game plan/relationship between coach and players/the club overall. When that happens they need to go no matter how good they are perceived to be.
Difficult to decipher that drivel,but whether you blame the coach or not it's holding us back and needs sorting.When one awkward player becomes 3/4 then the casualty is usually the one with the ultimate responsibility.
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Re: Round 7 Barrow vs Halifax : Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:05 am  
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Difficult to decipher that drivel,but whether you blame the coach or not it's holding us back and needs sorting.When one awkward player becomes 3/4 then the casualty is usually the one with the ultimate responsibility.


So you can understand I’ll write slowly...... :wink:

Question, who are the 3/4 who you claim have become awkward and how do you know?
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Re: Round 7 Barrow vs Halifax : Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:18 am  
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Difficult to decipher that drivel,but whether you blame the coach or not it's holding us back and needs sorting.When one awkward player becomes 3/4 then the casualty is usually the one with the ultimate responsibility.

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Re: Round 7 Barrow vs Halifax : Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:29 am  
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So you can understand I’ll write slowly...... :wink:

Question, who are the 3/4 who you claim have become awkward and how do you know?

Springer,King,Doro Arundel all falling foul of the 'requirements'.Won't repeat what Arundel put on facebook..Gwaze didnt stay-I know you'll come back with finance but his 15/25 minute replacement man who makes Anthony Seuseu look origin standard-i'd pay the difference in contract myself..
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Re: Round 7 Barrow vs Halifax : Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:30 am  
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I'd rather hear an intelligent counter argument.....
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Re: Round 7 Barrow vs Halifax : Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:46 am  
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I'd rather hear an intelligent counter argument.....

What about going into the Panthers club shop with Grix serving from the other side of the counter :wink:
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Re: Round 7 Barrow vs Halifax : Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:15 am  
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Springer,King,Doro Arundel all falling foul of the 'requirements'.Won't repeat what Arundel put on facebook..Gwaze didnt stay-I know you'll come back with finance but his 15/25 minute replacement man who makes Anthony Seuseu look origin standard-i'd pay the difference in contract myself..


Springer and Arundel may loosely fit the awkward description but Gwaze and King left for different reasons and since the Gwaze negotiations went on for months why didn’t you make your contract payment offer when you had the chance?

By the way it’s well known in every work place environment once you pay 1 player / person more you open up the prospect of having to pay everyone more or causing internal division if you don’t.

(You have hit on what’s holding us back though and it’s finances and not the coach.)

Springer and Arundel’s departures were seasons apart, Gwaze was brought in by Grix so he got that one right and he left for a better deal and Doro is still here so the 3/4 is clearly not in line with the facts and is unfairly loaded negatively against Grix.

The facts are under SG after the regular games in the last two seasons Fax have finished third both times with only the likes of Leigh, Fev and Toulouse finishing above them all of whom had much bigger budgets which was acknowledged by the wider rugby league fraternity Grix having a high level of performance vs resource ratio.

Who would you replace him with that you could guarantee something better with the same situation?
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Re: Round 7 Barrow vs Halifax : Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:39 am  
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Springer and Arundel may loosely fit the awkward description but Gwaze and King left for different reasons and since the Gwaze negotiations went on for months why didn’t you make your contract payment offer when you had the chance?

By the way it’s well known in every work place environment once you pay 1 player / person more you open up the prospect of having to pay everyone more or causing internal division if you don’t.

(You have hit on what’s holding us back though and it’s finances and not the coach.)

Springer and Arundel’s departures were seasons apart, Gwaze was brought in by Grix so he got that one right and he left for a better deal and Doro is still here so the 3/4 is clearly not in line with the facts and is unfairly loaded negatively against Grix.

The facts are under SG after the regular games in the last two seasons Fax have finished third both times with only the likes of Leigh, Fev and Toulouse finishing above them all of whom had much bigger budgets which was acknowledged by the wider rugby league fraternity Grix having a high level of performance vs resource ratio.

Who would you replace him with that you could guarantee something better with the same situation?

Not sure I agree entirely but appreciate the reasoned response.
Personally I don't like what Grix demands in a forward and don't believe his methods at this level will work.His recritment 3 for this season have been a disaster so far...no guarentees with anything but Kyle Amor would be my choice,knowlegeable,respected and I'm sure would be capable of assembling a pack with the right credentials for all type of track rugby.
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