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The league structure : Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:47 am  
Can some please explain the how the league positions are worked out. I’ve read the guide on the RFL site but I don’t get it. How can we score more points with a greater points difference than any other team (I know 4 still have to play) yet the percentage system puts us second in the league.
Everyone will have payed 1 game and if you have a greater points difference then the percentage should be better than every one else?
Does that mean if all teams played all their matches and all the results were the same as this weekend (so far). We would have the greater points difference difference but be second because of the percentage maths?
I don’t even know if I’m making science now. :DOH:
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Re: The league structure : Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:30 am  
Faxlore wrote:
Can some please explain the how the league positions are worked out. I’ve read the guide on the RFL site but I don’t get it. How can we score more points with a greater points difference than any other team (I know 4 still have to play) yet the percentage system puts us second in the league.
Everyone will have payed 1 game and if you have a greater points difference then the percentage should be better than every one else?
Does that mean if all teams played all their matches and all the results were the same as this weekend (so far). We would have the greater points difference difference but be second because of the percentage maths?
I don’t even know if I’m making science now. :DOH:

:? ......and that's before they deduct our two points from the London game! :roll:
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Re: The league structure : Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:34 am  
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:? ......and that's before they deduct our two points from the London game! :roll:

What does that mean?
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Re: The league structure : Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:50 am  
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What does that mean?

From when we played London in SL. First game up we won, lost every other game and League deducted our 2 points off us for irregularities or summat. :lol:
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Re: The league structure : Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:03 pm  
Some official blurb.

“The club gaining promotion from the Championship to Super League in 2021 will do so via points percentage rather than the number of points won.

Championship and League 1 clubs have agreed to adopt the format introduced by Super League in 2020 to cope with the impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

The Rugby Football League says postponements will be permitted if a team loses seven or more players for Covid-related reasons.

The first option will be for matches to be rearranged on a free date but, if this is not possible, the fixture will be cancelled.

The clubs have also agreed to suspend golden point extra time for drawn matches due to concerns over the welfare of players who will have gone more than a year since their last fixture and the majority of whom are part-time.

The RFL says the intention is to reintroduce golden point for the 2022 season.

The Championship season will comprises 22 rounds up to the weekend of September 19, with each of the 14 teams playing nine of the other 13 twice and the other four once.

The Summer Bash – the Championship’s equivalent of Super League’s Magic Weekend – will be scrapped in 2021 because it is expected crowds will have to be socially-distanced and therefore limited when fans are eventually permitted to return.”

Other maths from the SL edition are.

“- Percentage calculated by dividing points by matches played, x 50

- Positions to be determined by points scored percentage, calculated by dividing the number of points scored by the number of points conceded, x 100.”

Whether that applies to the Championship?
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Re: The league structure : Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:35 pm  
We are still below Toulouse somehow, I guess it must be because we are on UK percentages and they are on EU percentages. I am perplexed.
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Re: The league structure : Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:22 pm  
Norman Bates wrote:
We are still below Toulouse somehow, I guess it must be because we are on UK percentages and they are on EU percentages. I am perplexed.

Very unlike you Norman , usually a lateral thinker .
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Re: The league structure : Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:40 pm  
Points scored divided by points conceded is the differentiator if win percentages are equal, not points difference.

The next to last column in the table here... https://www.rugby-league.com/championship__league_1/league_tables
Points scored divided by points conceded is the differentiator if win percentages are equal, not points difference.

The next to last column in the table here... https://www.rugby-league.com/championship__league_1/league_tables
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Re: The league structure : Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:09 pm  
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Points scored divided by points conceded is the differentiator if win percentages are equal, not points difference.

The next to last column in the table here... https://www.rugby-league.com/championship__league_1/league_tables

So if you check the league tables it does follow this formula.

“ Positions to be determined by points scored percentage, calculated by dividing the number of points scored by the number of points conceded, x 100.”

Seems strange though that with this % formula it’s not consistent with the tried and tested for and against method as shown below.

1. Eagles with a 38 point for and against difference = 416.67 %.

2. Toulouse with a 15 point f and a difference = 350.00 %.

3. Panthers with a 33 point f and a difference = 335.71 %.

At this point in time It’s just as a point of discussion and if Fax get anywhere near 3rd spot regardless of the maths I will be highly delighted.
HXSparky wrote:
Points scored divided by points conceded is the differentiator if win percentages are equal, not points difference.

The next to last column in the table here... https://www.rugby-league.com/championship__league_1/league_tables

So if you check the league tables it does follow this formula.

“ Positions to be determined by points scored percentage, calculated by dividing the number of points scored by the number of points conceded, x 100.”

Seems strange though that with this % formula it’s not consistent with the tried and tested for and against method as shown below.

1. Eagles with a 38 point for and against difference = 416.67 %.

2. Toulouse with a 15 point f and a difference = 350.00 %.

3. Panthers with a 33 point f and a difference = 335.71 %.

At this point in time It’s just as a point of discussion and if Fax get anywhere near 3rd spot regardless of the maths I will be highly delighted.
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Re: The league structure : Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:27 pm  
faxcar wrote:
So if you check the league tables it does follow this formula.

“ Positions to be determined by points scored percentage, calculated by dividing the number of points scored by the number of points conceded, x 100.”

Seems strange though that with this % formula it’s not consistent with the tried and tested for and against method as shown below.

1. Eagles with a 38 point for and against difference = 416.67 %.

2. Toulouse with a 15 point f and a difference = 350.00 %.

3. Panthers with a 33 point f and a difference = 335.71 %.

At this point in time It’s just as a point of discussion and if Fax get anywhere near 3rd spot regardless of the maths I will be highly delighted.

Crikey, me head hurts! :CRAZY:
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