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Re: Leigh away : Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:02 pm  
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Wait, Hudd-Shay is involved in ANOTHER boring anti-DR rant and then withdraws when challenged.

I'm honestly so shocked.

Zzzzzzzz

Hudds can speak for himself but from my perspective we’ve talked ourself out and with nothing more to say you stop talking and agree to disagree and both withdraw.

I am not challenging the person, it’s not personal or even the stance on DR.
It’s the anti club aspect that I challenge, these guys and a small army of others are working their butts off with no chance of any return and just want the club to do as well as it can and constantly get kicked in the teeth for their trouble.
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Re: Leigh away : Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:47 pm  
Not the only Club where long time supporters unhappy.

I totally agree with your comments Hawthorne your reasons for not going are the same as mine.

After supporting the DONS since 1961 I don't feel that they are my club anymore'

SAD but TRUE.
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Re: Leigh away : Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:34 am  
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In representation, correct me if I'm wrong you're blaming the coach and I'm not?

It's certainly not about splitting hairs, identifying the root of the problem is far more important than that.

From what I am seeing from Fax and my own experience of being coached, playing etc, discipline and tackling (or what we knew as the collision) often go hand in hand.
The collision is key and comes before any wrestling side of things.
Win the collision either in attack or defense and you almost certainly win the other things such as the wrestle and in context the penalty count.

When defending, if you are losing the collision (getting rolled down the middle like Fax often are) you start to lose your discipline.
If you release early they make big yards down the middle, retreating defense = penalties, points conceded.
If you don't release early to slow the play the ball down = penalties and points conceded.

It's a simple formula that every rugby player / coach at every level knows about, we all know this.

This is exactly what's happening with Fax, reading Keal's retirement interview and speaking about his condition coming to light against Sheffield he says this.
“I probably lied to myself a little bit that day; the pitch was heavy, they were rolling us down the middle and it was the first game."

This root cause of being rolled down the middle and penalties has nothing to do with the players you quoted who either weren't even playing, or if they were, none are playing down the middle, it's the pack's responsibility.

Can SG see this, yes.
In the pre York game interview he says.
"He thought the backs are doing okay but the forwards were pretty scratchy, they need to sort their games out".

If he's saying that in front of the camera what do you think he is saying off camera?

He tells us in the post match interview from the same game saying.
"He had laid down the challenge to our middle of how they needed to play".

Of course that would have involved coaching, not just saying it and off the field both coach and player will work together but when on the field it's down to the player.

Have a bad game on game day and the coach will do his job and pull you off, keep having bad game days and you will be dropped, again a simple formula that everyone understands.

Problem is as stated, we have no one to replace them in the pack, who's going to replace Dan and Kev for instance?

Ben, Elliot, Sion Jones all out injured and no one available on DR.

So they keep their place.
Does a player who's been told and knows he's having a second or even third chance need anymore incentive to be galvanized to take personnel or collective responsibility for his performance or actions and if he blamed the coach for "everything on the field" were down to failings at coaching level how do think they would be viewed by everyone else involved at the club including us.

Just imagine what we would say and think if Dan Fleming who lets be honest has clearly had a few poor games comes out and blames Simon Grix!!!
I just can't stop giving penalties away and it's his fault, I need to be galvanized. :lol:
Pure :CRAZY: 100% proof.

Tommy Lee will add strength down the middle as SG stated. "He can whack em and will stiffen us up there."

Ben Kaye had his faults but defense down the middle was one of his strong points and we've missed his influence there.


Thanks for the essay. You don't have to point out the basics. Maybe you could use this for your GCSE English this year? Amusing that you must have sat there and gone back and C&P'd those quotes. Respect your passion and honesty but we won't be agreeing anytime soon.
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Re: Leigh away : Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:27 am  
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Thanks for the essay. You don't have to point out the basics. Maybe you could use this for your GCSE English this year? Amusing that you must have sat there and gone back and C&P'd those quotes. Respect your passion and honesty but we won't be agreeing anytime soon.

Just replying to an essay of your own on the basics of discipline and tackling and looking at the content I wondered if you had ever played or been coached?

Accepting the challenge of the childish GCSE dig and amusement bring it on, I mean when you can't bring logic and facts to the discussion we can always fall back on to insults.

If I am going to sit here and type I may as well type from the source and what the club, coach and players are actually saying.
Do you not sit and type or do you have to stand on the chair to be able to reach the keyboard :).

Respect your passion and honesty and concur, we won't be agreeing any time soon because SG will still be here any time soon. :thumb:
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Re: Leigh away : Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:32 am  
There aren't enough of us left on here to start bickering with each other.Let's respect each others views,while not necessarilly agreeing..
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Re: Leigh away : Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:06 am  
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Not the only Club where long time supporters unhappy.

I totally agree with your comments Hawthorne your reasons for not going are the same as mine.

After supporting the DONS since 1961 I don't feel that they are my club anymore'

SAD but TRUE.

For me it's not really the club that I don't feel attached to, although DR dosen't help, it's the game as a whole. SL and the Championship seem totally different entities. So far apart they're almost different sports. Club's under SL don't count but without the roots the trees will die, yet still the people running the game plough onwards in the chase of their idiotic dreams. We'll see where it all ends. For me this Sunday brings an U9's game followed by a new micropub. What's not to like?
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Re: Leigh away : Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:28 pm  
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For me it's not really the club that I don't feel attached to, although DR dosen't help, it's the game as a whole. SL and the Championship seem totally different entities. So far apart they're almost different sports. Club's under SL don't count but without the roots the trees will die, yet still the people running the game plough onwards in the chase of their idiotic dreams. We'll see where it all ends. For me this Sunday brings an U9's game followed by a new micropub. What's not to like?

Yup.....
Ive endured the fev Rhinos digs from fax fans over the last few years pete with a similar view on dr to yourself and the irony in this forum is more sadness now than amusement.
I agree with your sentiments. I fear for the future of the game.
DR is a part of the decline our clubs have willingly bought into.
I wouldn't have enjoyed a cracking weekend in Toronto was it not for DR. And right there my friend is the dilemma for fans of championship clubs
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Re: Leigh away : Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:31 pm  
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Yup.....
Ive endured the fev Rhinos digs from fax fans over the last few years pete with a similar view on dr to yourself and the irony in this forum is more sadness now than amusement.
I agree with your sentiments. I fear for the future of the game.
DR is a part of the decline our clubs have willingly bought into.
I wouldn't have enjoyed a cracking weekend in Toronto was it not for DR. And right there my friend is the dilemma for fans of championship clubs

Why not ? we did..
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Re: Leigh away : Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:35 pm  
Because I wouldn't have gone if fev weren't there!!
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Re: Leigh away : Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:38 pm  
Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:
Because I wouldn't have gone if fev weren't there!!

You only went because it was a final rather than a league game then,i see.
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