: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:09 pm  

Yob wrote:

Unfortunately ideas are worthless unless somebody grabs hold of them and make them happen.

So very true , I would also like to point out that Mike started this thread and it was telling us all we need to increase revenue into the club.It was a positive post so lets keep all comments on here about positive ways to help the club increase people through the gate and extra revenue in the club.
I for one would like a fans get together especialy if we know people who might help out with printing etc.

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:15 pm  

Malfax wrote:

I'm sure if some of the past investors paid the club what they owed, it would go a long way to getting better players

Here's a scenario.you order a tv from a shop and when you get it home they have sent you the wrong one.The shop apologize for the mistake and reorder your tv.The new tv arrives and once again you get it home and it's the wrong one.you speak to the shop again they apologize once again and reorder the tv.same thing happens a third time and a fourth etc etc what do you do?you get your money back or if you havnt paid anything you cancel the agreement and vow not to give that shop any of your hard earned money again.

The"they are volunteers"argument wears very thin.

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:31 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Here's a scenario.you order a tv from a shop and when you get it home they have sent you the wrong one.The shop apologize for the mistake and reorder your tv.The new tv arrives and once again you get it home and it's the wrong one.you speak to the shop again they apologize once again and reorder the tv.same thing happens a third time and a fourth etc etc what do you do?you get your money back or if you havnt paid anything you cancel the agreement and vow not to give that shop any of your hard earned money again.

The"they are volunteers"argument wears very thin.

Never used that argument.

Here's a scenario; You make arrangements to have a business logo on Man U playing shirt, you see the logo on the shirt every game but then don't pay for it.

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:36 pm  

wow, to say we all support the same team we aint half good at sly digs at each other. How about all pull in same direction??

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:21 pm  

urbancarrot wrote:

wow, to say we all support the same team we aint half good at sly digs at each other. How about all pull in same direction??

When all the clubs start to do that we will all start to get somewhere

Till then , we're all doomed , doomed I tel ya , DOOMED

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:27 pm  

Malfax wrote:

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Never used that argument.

Here's a scenario; You make arrangements to have a business logo on Man U playing shirt, you see the logo on the shirt every game but then don't pay for it.

Here's a scenario; You don't make an agreement to have a business logo on a Man U playing shirt but see the logo on the shirt every game and then are asked to pay for it. No order, no discussion.

And another; You are told by Man U that in return for spending a small fortune and being a good sponsor in times of good and bad, we'll give you a photo montage of all your presentations on stage with the players, then on presentation night forget to give them it and when it does turn up there are only a couple of photo's. To some of our past sponsors it's a BIG thing. Attention to detail is crucial and who can possibly be expected to pay for something they were promised but never received?

Here's another; You turn up one day and find somebody else is on Man U's shirt when you've been on their for years and they never asked you if you wanted to continue before giving it to somebody else.

The list can go on and on and it's no wonder that Sponsors have left in droves over the years.

Back on topic. If the Club are prepared to take on board the suggestions made by fans in a "Brain Storming" session, then I'm sure it will be well attended and there could even be a prize for the best ideas that are implemented.

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:17 pm  

urbancarrot wrote:

wow, to say we all support the same team we aint half good at sly digs at each other. How about all pull in same direction??

Well said. Am sick and tired of all the back biting. People are coming up with good ideas that, if we have the time and resources, we will happily support. This thread has descended in to pointless jibes that won't achieve anything.

As for GFB saying about the volunteers stuff wearing thin - can I just tell you that this Club would not be here and operating without these volunteers. We came out of Super League, lost the majority of the paid staff but tried to continue what we were doing commercially and marketing wise as a Super League Club. This is where volunteers, starting with people like Stephen Pearson came to the fore.

The staff and volunteers here at the Club just get on with the job in hand. We are constantly trying to do things better - all suggestions and offers of help are welcome.

Great idea to have the stall at the Woolshops from JFFC and if they are willing to organise and man it we will help in any way we can - print and design leaflets, arrange players to be there, send Halicat, Richard will come along to promote the lottery. This is exactly the kind of thing we really appreciate.

As for Yob's comment about sponsors leaving in droves - I could quite easily give you the Club's side of the story but to be honest it is not something I think should be discussed on an internet forum. It is frustrating having to read things on here that the fans read and then take as fact. Sponsors leave but we also get many new sponsors - the reasons they have given you for leaving are probably very different from the discussions we have had with them.

I think that we have a fantastic sponsors base - especially with the facilities we have at the moment. I don't think there is anyone who has been in the sponsors lounge this year who you would get any complaint from. We have even better supporters - look how many buses we took over to Doncaster to help them out and our travelling support to Cas. We just need more of them and will welcome and help out with any suggestion fans have.

Let's just stop with all the back biting and pull together to make the Club we love prosper. We are watching entertaining rugby and enjoying winning ways - let's try and build some momentum for a push for Super League. If anyone does want to discuss any ideas or even grievances please just give us a call - I am quite happy to talk to anyone, explain any misunderstandings, deal with any complaints etc. etc.

Hope to see you all on Sunday. Sarah

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:35 pm  

Do the club have a database of past season ticket holders? If so, as we are now enjoying our most succesful season since 98 & playing the most exciting rugby, could we not send out invitations offering "mid season" season tickets & also provide them with a DVD of a past match where the rugby has been great.

That way, they can see for themselves what they are missing & maybe generate more fans (even if they were ones who had drifted away)

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:22 pm  

Halifax RLFC wrote:

As for Yob's comment about sponsors leaving in droves - I could quite easily give you the Club's side of the story but to be honest it is not something I think should be discussed on an internet forum. It is frustrating having to read things on here that the fans read and then take as fact. Sponsors leave but we also get many new sponsors - the reasons they have given you for leaving are probably very different from the discussions we have had with them.

The problem you have though is this, I do believe Yob to be an upstanding member of the community and very shrewd businessman, anybody with any sense is not going to believe he is telling fibs now are they?
Im really suprised there have being any discussions with sponsors.Trying to contact someone who is running the club is like trying to get blood out of a stone.

On the volunteers note. If I volunteered to build your house and did a shabby job. Would it be ok because i was a volunteer?

Anyway back on topic griffax has a good idea about the past season ticket holders. Maybe you could add past sponsors to that list as well afterall it cant be that hard to dig up a database containing all this info can it..........

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:28 pm  

despite being council owned, would there be any benefit (for both clubs) to finding a stadium sponser ,or has it already got one?

it could be called The Safeway Shay or something