: Tue May 12, 2009 8:55 pm  

Starbug wrote:

As Rich pointed out , the whole point of new stadiums is that they are making money for whoever runs them 7 days a week , 52 weeks a year

So it is vitaly important that if you ever wish to get into SL and be successful there you need control of the Shay and all it's revenue streams

To be fair the Council is putting the money in (£3.5 million) as did Wigan MBC for the LSV so they would expect to get a return on their money as its public money at the end of the day. Its unrealistic to expect them to hand the ground over to the sports clubs, much that we would all like them to.

The way the club will benefit with the new East Stand is in the Corporate side as there will be more scope to have a lot more Diners and Sponsors (it will be a lot easier to sell packages than the current set up, especially with that balcony feature) and make money from that plus the 10 boxes which they should get sponsorhsip from - all I believe to be sorted out with Calderdale MBC before next season yet.

Hopefully CMBC will not ask an unrealsitic rent from both Fax and Town, like it sounds Doncaster and Wigan Councils have done for Donny and Leigh RLFC.

If I had won the Euro lottery I would have bought the ground off the Council and set it up as a not for profit company to run its own affairs.

: Tue May 12, 2009 8:58 pm  

does the dvd of saturdays game have commentary? i let the castleford fans know our clubs selling it and someones askin if it does

: Tue May 12, 2009 9:05 pm  

bluesox4evaaa wrote:

does the dvd of saturdays game have commentary? i let the castleford fans know our clubs selling it and someones askin if it does

No but you can hear the "FAX" fans cheering.

: Tue May 12, 2009 9:06 pm  

bluesox4evaaa wrote:

does the dvd of saturdays game have commentary? i let the castleford fans know our clubs selling it and someones askin if it does

no dont think it does, daryl was not there, just steve doing the filming

: Tue May 12, 2009 9:17 pm  

Halifax RLFC wrote:

but nothing whatsoever from the sales of drink/food in the stadium

Nothing from the sale of food? When did that change? When I worked for HTAFC, we had an agreement with the food vans which saw them pay an amount to the club depending on the crowd based.

: Tue May 12, 2009 9:20 pm  

Starbug wrote:

It will , for the council , somehow you must get control of the Shay if you ever want to get back into SL

No chance when the stadium is shared with FC Halifax Town.

Regarding the bars, it has always been the case with the Southdale Lounge that the club does not benefit directly from its takings. However, the income generated through this source has ensured both the sustainability of SST and that the rent both clubs paid was kept to a minimum. It will be a similar situation with the new East Stand with revenue generated through the bars going to the Council. This once again will ensure that the stadium remains sustainable whilst helping keep the future rental payments by FCHT and HRLFC as low possible.

There will undoubtedly be new ways for the two clubs to raise commercial income by using the much enhanced facilities that will be available. For example there will be:

- six executive boxes that the club will be able to use (and sell on a seasonal basis).
- much improved banqueting facilities for attracting more corporate partners, sponsors and diners on a matchday.
- much bigger retail space providing a more professional shop for selling club merchandise.

The clubs have a huge part to play and will have to work with the company appointed by the Council to develop and maximise usage of the facilities to ensure full benefit is taken of the new stand. By providing these new facilities, the clubs has a lot of hard work to ensure it takes full advantage of what will be available to them.

Hopefully everyone with an interest will be able to work together for the benefit of each other and the Council will remain realistic over its future rent charges.

: Tue May 12, 2009 9:27 pm  

Bubba wrote:

Hopefully everyone with an interest will be able to work together for the benefit of each other and the Council will remain realistic over its future rent charges.

Utopia Bubba. Since when has any of that happened in the past?

Great post though. You talk too much sense sometimes

: Tue May 12, 2009 9:33 pm  

littlerich wrote:

Utopia Bubba. Since when has any of that happened in the past?

It has, unfortunately just not enough.

'Fax keep growing stronger and stronger and there is a lot FC Halifax Town could learn from their neighbours from down the corridor at the Shay. I am just unsure whether there is a will for either club to work closer together and I think at times they see themselves as rivals in grabbing the attention of the small, local population...which 'Fax are winning by a mile. It still isnt a rugby town though

: Tue May 12, 2009 9:39 pm  

Bubba wrote:

It still isnt a rugby town though

You've gone and spoilt it now

: Tue May 12, 2009 10:10 pm  

Fax4Life wrote:

To be fair the Council is putting the money in (£3.5 million) as did Wigan MBC for the LSV so they would expect to get a return on their money as its public money at the end of the day. Its unrealistic to expect them to hand the ground over to the sports clubs, much that we would all like them to.

The way the club will benefit with the new East Stand is in the Corporate side as there will be more scope to have a lot more Diners and Sponsors (it will be a lot easier to sell packages than the current set up, especially with that balcony feature) and make money from that plus the 10 boxes which they should get sponsorhsip from - all I believe to be sorted out with Calderdale MBC before next season yet.

Hopefully CMBC will not ask an unrealsitic rent from both Fax and Town, like it sounds Doncaster and Wigan Councils have done for Donny and Leigh RLFC.

If I had won the Euro lottery I would have bought the ground off the Council and set it up as a not for profit company to run its own affairs.

W1g4n council didn't actually contribute very much to the LSV , most came through grant funding and the sale of land owned by leigh harriers and leased by leigh east

They did however underight the thing as there was a shortfall

Possibly the biggest mistake our club will ever make is moving into it