Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:28 pm  

lmw wrote:

from above

im no business man but that involves spending to gain on merchandise ect and future youth but again you cant gain from spending on that unless someone is there to buy it and by given the chance of promotion and gaining fans on the way then they can become the custom to what u intend to grow

Working on your own you will never make significant income from merchandice

Explain future youth?

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:30 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Yes it shows, and you didnt answer the question

hey im a fan and i have my oppinion and the funny thing is starbug that i will probably have more agree with me than do yourself who thinks you no better than anyone but your only grievence is no one wants to listen to you because your the one with unrealistic oppinions and it shows

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:36 pm  

lmw wrote:

you say promotion, relegation doesnt work as does that moron stevo but im sure over the last 100 years many clubs have gone up and down and gone on to win trophys and making money along the way. was it spent right by the majority? probably not but i feel clubs in our position have learnt and should be given a go and would do a better job that the salfords.

goodnight starbug

For the vast majority of its life RL had 1 division and clubs reied on local players and the winning of trophys has nothing to do with running sports businesses

I'd suggest the vast majority of clubs that won trophys lost money

What have clubs in our position learned? , Leigh certainly havent learned anything and wouldnt do a better job than Salford, and lets face it is that the sum of your ambition? Getting hammered 3 weeks out of 4

Nighty nite

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:39 pm  

Licensing is a great idea. If it has a clear objective and the governing body has the balls to both give chances to clubs that match clearly defined criteria and punish the clubs that don't. If the governing body are to be seen to take their own system seriously it needs to be continuously monitored so those people committing misdemeanours are the ones punished, not the people left to clear up the mess.

We have been sold the need for licensing on a number if issues - stadia - joke, financial security - Bradford, crusaders and now Salford. Geographic location - you can still throw a duvet over 99% of SL clubs and crusaders are gone. Youth development - now it seems that has all been given to championship clubs.

Fans of the sport at all levels are seeing the truth now. Licencing a great idea shockingly implemented leaving Super League looking like it started out life as a list of clubs jotted down on the back of a fag packet one boozy night and is not to be strayed from one bit.

Hardly a surprise people are switching off.

As an aside, the RFU are selling naming rights to twickers and investing the money in lower league clubs to keep P&R sustainable. Seems they copied many things from RL but steer clear of licensing!

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:43 pm  

lmw wrote:

hey im a fan and i have my oppinion and the funny thing is starbug that i will probably have more agree with me than do yourself who thinks you no better than anyone but your only grievence is no one wants to listen to you because your the one with unrealistic oppinions and it shows

Having others agree with failed ideas isnt neccessarrily a good thing, it explains why clubs like yours and ' mine ' are still in the Championship playing in front of less than a couple of thousand fans

I dont have grievances, I am dissapointed when I see supposedly clever people making the same mistakes that have been made over and over again, eventually even a Chimpanzee realises it cant pull a banana out of a hole sideways

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:48 pm  

Quite right freddie, the easiest way to make licencing a success is to build a strong second tier , that puts pressure on the licencees to up their game

Unfortunatly the RFL either dont want that, or dont understand that

Re: Grim at Salford : Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:48 pm  

And what will happen to Salford?

Lease on "iconic" ground bought by RFL
Players wages paid during period of administration
Provisional year licence awarded
Period of silence in hope no one trips over crap swept under carpet

Move along, there's nowt to see here

Re: Grim at Salford : Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:50 am  

What a great thread to wake up to on a rugby-free monday morning. 5 pages in before I catch sight of a 3-way conversation. I have nothing to offer really other than Salford have never done me any harm, I don't care for them or dislike them in equal measures but unfortunately for them I expect they won't be afforded the same luxurious treatments of higher profile or development area clubs by our governing body. Salford will be given the boot & a reduced number of SL clubs ensues.
I might go back to the original post & read the link but I sort of know what to expect, I don't think this will end "and they all lived happily ever after"..........

Re: Grim at Salford : Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:56 pm  

even more grim now, the salford council have said no to helping them out, not a good day for rugby league, the rfl will deffo not help them out like they did for the dulls,,,

Re: Grim at Salford : Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:04 pm  

seanfax wrote: even more grim now, the salford council have said no to helping them out, not a good day for rugby league, the rfl will deffo not help them out like they did for the dulls,,, http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... thrown-out

seanfax wrote: even more grim now, the salford council have said no to helping them out, not a good day for rugby league, the rfl will deffo not help them out like they did for the dulls,,, http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... thrown-out