: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:00 pm  

faxtastic wrote:

you could be right but i think the RFL will do anything they can to get the game out into other parts of the country and even other countries, they wouldnt have brought toulouse into this league if they didt have plans to stick them in super league and if Barrow can sort some things out then there are the 2 places right there.

then you have further down the line of having a spanish club, maybe a cornish club, a scottish club. teams like Halifax and Widnes may never get back in with the way things are going.

But they have to act within the law. In particular, EU law.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:12 pm  

Pepe wrote:

But they have to act within the law. In particular, EU law.

they will find some clever way of doing it to stay in the law but make sure they get who they want in the super league and not neccesserally the teams that deserve the place.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:19 pm  

faxtastic wrote:

they will find some clever way of doing it to stay in the law but make sure they get who they want in the super league and not neccesserally the teams that deserve the place.

Given the way some clubs have not fulfilled their promises and the state of some of their grounds, attendances and financial problems, that may not hold up to any real independent scrutiny.

The case against the RFL is building week by week.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:36 pm  

Pepe wrote:

Given the way some clubs have not fulfilled their promises and the state of some of their grounds, attendances and financial problems, that may not hold up to any real independent scrutiny.

The case against the RFL is building week by week.

the walls are closing in

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:46 pm  

faxtastic wrote: the walls are closing in Here's the get out clause. RFL: "The Crusaders, who were founded in 2005, have met many of the targets they were set after being awarded a three-year Super League licence 12 months ago but have been experiencing difficulties due to the adverse economic climate." “However they are in it for the long haul and we are determined to do what we can to help them find additional investors. We are trying to establish a Super League club outside the traditional rugby league heartland, which would have been a tough ask at any time, never mind in the depths of a worldwide recession." “When their Super League licence was first approved the world was a very different place to what it is now and no-one at Celtic Crusaders could have anticipated many of the difficulties they have faced." http://www.totalrl.com/features/content.php?feat_id=746&featcat_id=49 Looks like the RFL were the only people on earth unaware we were heading into a major recession last July. That will now be the excuse they use to keep all those clubs who promised new stadiums in SL come the next round of licences.

faxtastic wrote: the walls are closing in Here's the get out clause. RFL: "The Crusaders, who were founded in 2005, have met many of the targets they were set after being awarded a three-year Super League licence 12 months ago but have been experiencing difficulties due to the adverse economic climate." “However they are in it for the long haul and we are determined to do what we can to help them find additional investors. We are trying to establish a Super League club outside the traditional rugby league heartland, which would have been a tough ask at any time, never mind in the depths of a worldwide recession." “When their Super League licence was first approved the world was a very different place to what it is now and no-one at Celtic Crusaders could have anticipated many of the difficulties they have faced." http://www.totalrl.com/features/content.php?feat_id=746&featcat_id=49 Looks like the RFL were the only people on earth unaware we were heading into a major recession last July. That will now be the excuse they use to keep all those clubs who promised new stadiums in SL come the next round of licences.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:18 pm  

Pepe wrote:

It is clear from this statement:
"I was approached in 2004 to start up a club that was capable of getting into Super League by 2009," said Samuel.
That Mr Samuel. Was approached by someone acting on behalf of the RFL to “start up a club that was capable of getting into Super League by 2009,". This shows the what the intention of the RFL was to entering the Celtic Crusaders into SL, and also shows the whole licencing process to have been a complete sham.

I asked

This is what I was told

He was approached by Chris O'Callaghan of Aberavon Fighting Irish and Mike Nicholas, the President of the Welsh Rugby League.

So is it all a conspiracy or not

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:28 pm  

Starbug wrote:

I asked

This is what I was told




So is it all a conspiracy or not

It's not about who asked the question, but on who's behalf was it asked.

Surely that could only be the RFL's?