Re: Dane Manning : Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:24 pm  

Pride & Heritage wrote:

The point is, missing out on the top 4 won't hurt us like it did you or Sheffield. Our contracts depend on where we finish, so regardless of where we finish, it will cost us the same percentage of our RFL funding next year. Therefore we will be unable to overspend and it is up to the players to perform to get the increased money for the second year. If we don't earn it, they don't get it.

Gates of 1500 at best, really? How about the 4000 gate for the Bulls game? Does that not count? Just out of interest, what are Halifax's avg gates? I know its not 2000 and I would be very shocked if our outgoings are anything like yours.

The other thing is, we don't have to find rent on our ground, unlike you, oh hang on a minute, you have paid that now I take it?

Our food and beverage sales go to the club unlike yours. We received 3x more rfl funding this year, than last, and the fact of the matter is, the 1 win against fev in the middle 8 s would have paid for Manning several times over. We also have no debts to pay off from the funding, unlike almost every other club in the game. It seems fairly obvious that the £700k you got was probably used to pay off what you owed, IT equipment ££££££££ really? NASA don't spend that much on IT FFS.

Ground not fit for SL, have you been to Wakefield lately? Ovendens ground is better than that.

So you can sleep easy LBC, we will be absolutely fine

Bitterly disappointed that Dane has gone and I must say thanks for all your effort at Fax you have been our most consistent player the last few years.
As for the club whilst I am glad the Board are cutting their coat according to their cloth I must ask why are we here? I think there is something wrong at our club but cannot say what only like others I think we have a certain arrogance that is undeserved and the whole club needs to treat its fans and sponsors better as we have lost lots of both and the club just cannot afford to lose any!!!
As for our Batley friend you are right you have the advantage of owning your own ground and us stupid lot come over in large numbers (maybe not next year) and put loads in your coffers which is now biting us in the bum as you have a better team than us although your Board can show how to run a RL club well I give them credit.

Re: Dane Manning : Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:57 am  

Sad to see one of our most consistent players leave. Just shows how backwards we have gone and we are obviously short of money.
To lose one of our better players to a rival for top 4 is disappointing. Can't blame him for leaving for more money. We once cherry picked batleys best players but the tables have turned. Losing one of our best players and the recruitment looks fairly unexciting. Top 4 looks a long shot now. London , Hull KR, batley, fev, Swinton look to have recruited far better. Dual reg looks a must.

Re: Dane Manning : Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:04 am  

Gutted about this news. However Dane has to make the call that is right for him and his young family (can't see him making a fortune as a window cleaner so am guessing rugby is his main source of income.) Also we should consider the dynamics of the team. It would be awkward if the club made an exception on the 10% drop in wages for one man. How would the other players feel? I am sure the club did all they could to retain his services but we have to move onwards and upwards now.
The team is going to have to work that bit harder now but they will have my support as they have accepted we are in the proverbial, financially, and by accepting the 10% pay cut, nailed their colours well and truly to the blue and white mast.
'The king is dead long live the king' (Shakespeare no less )

Re: Dane Manning : Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:15 am  

Living The Dream wrote:

Gutted about this news. However Dane has to make the call that is right for him and his young family (can't see him making a fortune as a window cleaner so am guessing rugby is his main source of income.) Also we should also consider the dynamics of the team. It would be awkward if the club made an exception on the 10% drop in wages for one man. How would the other players feel? I am sure the club did all they could to retain his services but we have to move onwards and upwards now.
The team is going to have to work that bit harder now but they will have my support as they have accepted we are in the proverbial financially and by accepting the 10% pay cut nailed their colours well and truly to the blue and white mast.
'The king is dead long live the king' (Shakespeare no less )

Dave as you know ,I have always rated DM ,it doesn't surprise me though he has chosen to join Batley, someone on the Forum referred to them as Little Batley, they are far from that, I expect Disk in to have them challenging for a top 4 spot, the Championship will be great to watch next season and I intend coming to a few games at the Shay, my worry is for Fax as a Club , they seem to be ready to settle for a place as also ran, your player recruitment is worse than most, I expect Swinton to be the Dark Horses next season, I hope I'm wrong but it could be a long season for Fax.Having said that I know fans like you, Halifaxjohn, and Hudd Shay, won't lose the faith, hope to see you soon.

Re: Dane Manning : Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:24 am  

diggory compton wrote:

Dave as you know ,I have always rated DM ,it doesn't surprise me though he has chosen to join Batley, someone on the Forum referred to them as Little Batley, they are far from that, I expect Disk in to have them challenging for a top 4 spot, the Championship will be great to watch next season and I intend coming to a few games at the Shay, my worry is for Fax as a Club , they seem to be ready to settle for a place as also ran, your player recruitment is worse than most, I expect Swinton to be the Dark Horses next season, I hope I'm wrong but it could be a long season for Fax.Having said that I know fans like you, Halifaxjohn, and Hudd Shay, won't lose the faith, hope to see you soon.

Agreed. There has to be an element of realism that no team has a God given right to be up there-especially Fax. Looking at the full time teams HullKR;Bradford;Tolouse;London then a strong Batley and Fev already shows how tough it will be before you add into the mix the usual seasonal dark horse side.
There will be some cracking games, of proper rugby, in the Championship next season. Good teams will take points off each other. Fax just have to hold firm, ensure they win their home games, secure Championship rugby first then kick on form there. What will be will be after that.
Building a successful team with no money is a tough call. We have done it in the past (Maurice Bamford era for example) -only time will tell.

Re: Dane Manning : Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:38 am  

There are only two points available from each game, and it will be a very competitive league next year. No easy matches, and team spirit and enthusiasm will be key for us. Our players will need to play to their full potential, but I think that above all, RM needs to rebuild the strong bond that the team had in 2015 so that morale stays high when the going gets tough.

Tbh, our best hope is probably to be that seasonal dark horse side!

Re: Dane Manning : Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:38 pm  

If its true haggerty as pulled out leaves us just two ne players with Grady and Rob.

I would say its a settled squad not two many changes apart from those who left. If grix comes back strong at the start of the season I can see us pushing.

Re: Dane Manning : Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:34 pm  

The club is now run like an amateur team,hoping on local carpet sellers, and all the other small time businesses and HMRC tax relief from iffy business men.

Passionate, but only sponsorship wise.

Don't know what Gartland, Harvey, Posner. Pearsons wife are doing.

Club will not challenge.

Pay cut? More half Ar*ed performances

Re: Dane Manning : Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:06 pm  

Thanks for your efforts Dane over the last few years, gutted to hear you are leaving but life goes on.

Re: Dane Manning : Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:02 pm  

jeffvickers wrote:

The club is now run like an amateur team,hoping on local carpet sellers, and all the other small time businesses and HMRC tax relief from iffy business men.

Passionate, but only sponsorship wise.

Don't know what Gartland, Harvey, Posner. Pearsons wife are doing.

Club will not challenge.

Pay cut? More half Ar*ed performances

I think the people you name are being sensible and not pouring money into a business with no assets and the only revenue stream is a bum on a seat. Let's be honest, the business plan isn't the best in the world is it?

We don't own the stadium, we don't get on with our landlord, the bar and food revenue goes to someone else and the shop revenue doesn't go to the club.

We live hand to mouth .......