Re: Dross : Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:41 pm  

get ben black back!!

Re: Dross : Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:49 pm  

horseyfax wrote:

get ben black back!!

Noooooooo.
I think and hope that Thacks is a dry weather player so come the better weather he will prove us all wrong, I am not totally convinced mind as for me is the one wild card Karl has got in the team.
The rest of the lads CAN PLAY BETTER than that we all know it, lets see how we go next week eh and come back and judge then, tonight we looked lost and did not look like a team which has not been the case this season, some soul searching will go on and I think we will see how good (or bad) we are next week.

Re: Dross : Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:09 am  

Our discipline & decision making was awful tonight. Leigh played the conditions better, usually by Beswicks simple inside passes onto powerful runners making much more yardage than us. In all honesty, I thought Harrisons style of team would have been more suited to wet weather conditions.
Handforths decision making, his penalty for cross-in, constantly running up and down blind alleys throwing out flat blind passes and another penalty for his high shot cost us field position. Thackeray was ultimately ineffective as the Leigh defence was excellent tonight. (The Leigh fans accusations of him being a one trick pony was probably justified tonight). Its a shame Bowman wasn't on the bench tonight. He can put players through gaps, though his defence can be suspect. I think we need to bring in an half back in on a dual-reg if possible.
We kept making errors in our own 20 by running the ball in to touch (White?), that awful back pass that hit the deck before the man and Reitties howler from a Leigh attacking kick.
Fieldhouse looked nervy tonight and our play the ball in general had no urgency whatsoever,
All in all, a bad day at the office. I hope the swathes of fans leaving the ground early as Fax were stuck behind the sticks will be a good kick up the backside for them.

Next week, I'd give Worrincy a start, put Reittie in the centres, Sam Barlow and Bowman on the bench.
I have a sneaky feeling we'll be more up for it next week (weather permitting!) The question is, can Leigh match the intensity they showed tonight for the second week running? It will be a very close game.
And lets hope for a better ref (he was just poor in general reffing both sides tonight)

Re: Dross : Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:49 am  

Rochdale - Fax Fan wrote:

I honestly can not believe I have just read that comment!!

Do you actually attend the games, or do you just look at the results?

Do you only crawl out of the woodwork when we lose? Where's your lengthly assessment been for the last nine matches? What the frig do some people want? Take your head out of the sand and get a dose of reality. Once again - we are a semi-pro club and only slightly better off than most in our league by the extra 500 people we get through the gate. That's it.

God loves a moaner and you'll glide through heaven's gate.

Re: Dross : Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:19 am  

Rochdale - Fax Fan wrote:

I honestly can not believe I have just read that comment!!

Do you actually attend the games, or do you just look at the results? If you do go to the games, you certainly have a different perspective of them than I do.

You are correct, we were (prior to tonight) top of the league.
However, do you really believe that to be an achievement? We are playing in a Mickey Mouse league where every game is effectively a friendly. In the majority of cases we are playing against sides consisting of RL’s journeymen who unfortunately never have (or never will) make the grade in SL, and therefore change their club ever season or so and just wait for the next best deal from a club who needs ‘freshening up’.

As for the Northern Rail Cup….
Watching Fax at Dewsbury on that freezing cold day back in February, I really did think it was, ‘the start of a new era’ as KH and the club had led us to believe, following the gritty and professional win. However, from then on it has all gone down-hill. If you; or any other Fax fan can say they were satisfied with that win, down at Skolars, then I would like to know how? In all of my life watching Fax, that particular game sticks out in the mind as being one of the worst. Granted, later on in the NRC they put up a very spirited performance against Fev and were unlucky to be defeated. As you say, they are through to the QF, however, again do you view this to be an achievement for Fax? Surely it just goes to show that the NRC is a total non-event and can only be won by the ‘bigger’ Championship clubs.

So far, I think we are 11 competitive games in to the season, I am extremely dispirited. Yes of course there have been the high points; Dewsbury and Fev in the NRC, Sheffield in the league and they also did a very professional job in the CC against Myton. However, these performance have been totally overshadowed by the inconsistency, that seems to have plagued every Fax side, since we have been playing at this level since 2004. For me; the performances: tonight, Keighley, York, Skolars (and despite scoring 84 points) South Wales, have all been well under par. With the exception of tonight, where we have played a very well drilled Leigh side; all the other defeats have been as a result of Fax’s: incompetence, indiscipline and in many cases, the lack of desire to win! So how you can be satisfied with this season so far is beyond me. We already look destined for yet another season of mediocrity!

I realise it is early days in the season, however, I’m sure that if we had watched this dross last season, there would have been supporters calling for MC’s head. Yet in the eyes of the vast majority of Fax fans Karl ‘The Messiah’ Harrison can still do no wrong! I’m sorry to break it to you folks….. but as of yet; The grass has not been greener on the other side.

I would like to think that when you look at this post this morning you might shake your head and think "did I really write that"??

Being top of a "Micky mouse league" does not represent a reasonable achievement??? Being in the last 8 of the NRC doesn't represent reasonable achievement??

Well I supopose I'd like the Fev v Fax fixture in a fortnight to be a SL fixture - but it isn't! For reasons beyond our clubs for the mo at least, these are the only comps in which we have a realistic chance of measureable success - unless you count progress in the lottery of the challenge cup.
It's the only comp we are in. Until last night Fax were top of their league, and are still in all competetions so far. Nothwithstanding last nights result, Fax have achieved about as much as could possibly have been expected of them so far. How on earth would you have seen them improving on their position this season?? Unbelievable.
Like fev did v sheffield, fax lost a game! Sh it happens - move on.

I do despair sometimes at how quick some hit the panic button

Re: Dross : Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:10 am  

He's just not happy with the manner in which we have set off this season. Ugly wins mixed in with good wins. That's Rugby League I'm afraid. He moans, season in, season out. I feel sorry for him. But, he pays his money like everyone else so his opinions are entitled of course.

Re: Dross : Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:36 am  

Will make more comments later when ive come round a bit but i wouldnt get too disheartened just yet, it was just one game. We have had a few players who have performed really well all season but unfortunatley for us last night collectively they had an off day, its going to happen.

Leigh played really well and im sure it will be a different game next week. One thing that does impress me, even though its border line obstruction most of the time, is Leighs use of the dummer runners they are running through the line at all angles and then hovering in our line to confuse the defence. We dont seem to be able to use the ball in the same way.

Re: Dross : Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:15 am  

Well, here goes, thought we could have done with Bowman on the bench as an option, tackling was poor and Leigh's was excellent, Fieldhouse was n't in the game going forward, still not sure about Handforth though the early kicking was good we didn't capitalise on it.
As GFB said they seemed to obstruct/shield a bit too much and it was n't pulled up so I guess if you can get away with it, but one where there player walked backwards into our oncoming defence was appallingly bad. Lines men were as bad as ref.
On the back of this though I still feel that next week we can only improve (famous last words) and a few people will have the riot act read to them. Pats should be in and Sam B as Ambler won't be in unless Leeds are out.
Bring it on.

Re: Dross : Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:20 am  

Some of the comments in this thread are unbelievable, talk about over-reaction.

You needed more points in the first 25 mins or so when you had all the ball and all the field position, Leigh's goal-line defence was excellent and they were a threat close to the Fax line every time.

It was a bad day at the office, move on!

Re: Dross : Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:30 am  

Been a while since I watched a game.

One of the things that shocked me was our lack of options in attack compared to Leigh.
They looked dangerous everytime they had the ball and despite a great start from us we didnt have anyone running through the line. If you look at how flat we were compared, the Leigh halfbacks had us standing off them in defence with 2 or 3 runners causing us havok. Our attack was very easy to read, the one face ball I remember ended up in a try, we seemed very cautious and without that bit of fire. Just at the point it looked like Leigh were gonna have their heads down they realised how easy it was to cause us problems with the ball in hand and it gave them instant confidence.