: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:18 pm  

worldofroses wrote:

You will find that most Widnes fans only want one thing - and that is to get to final and win prior to the next franchises - because that is all they need as everything else is already in place - it was your own fans that started calling it a Mickey Mouse cup as soon as you where knocked out of it - Mickey Mouse cup or not - its a cup that all who wish to compete in the next selection need to win - or a Grand Final.

I fully agree with this I really wanted us to make the final at Blackpool and was biterly disapointed we missed out again. Hope you guys enjoy Blackpool.
As for Todays game the 1st half was the worst ive seen in 19 years of following Fax, However lets look at the positives We came back to get a bonus point which Barrow didnt manage so we are now top of the league by a point with a game in hand so we have the chance to bounce back with lttle damage done. We just cant seem to get over the hangovers from the big cup games.

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:45 pm  

Wise Man wrote:

christ we've only lost 2 games you'd think we were now in mid table can concentrate fully on the league from now on, always thought today was going to be tough anyway.

I agree, we are top of the league with a game in hand.

At no point have we or the club said we would go through the season unbeaten. Christ, being a Fax supporter you have to be a realist, but please allow us to gloat a little! It's been a long time between drinks.... with the business end of the season still to come!

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:09 pm  

At least you're not going down.

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:14 pm  

faxtastic wrote:

maybe not but we were and we came back further than i think any other team in the league would have.

I'm sure you're right and Matt needs applauding for spotting not only where they were making their points, but also their weakness for us to be able to break through.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:00 am  

Although he didnt drop passes or missed tackles , I think MC must take some of the blame for yesterdays loss.Why did he play only one prop in the starting 13 , and just one on the bench.You need the big uns . Especially in the first half we had no go forward whatsoever , no power at all,Poor Larder who came off after 20mins looked shattered,He didnt come back on until the last 10mins and that is not normally like him.
Our early success this season was based on 2 props starting ,ieJames and Wilson and thenbringing on Said and Frank - we have to go back to that situation.We we bossed about by Widnes , we were bossed about yesterday and if not careful we will be bossed about on Friday

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:11 am  

Starting to remind me of last season. Play half as bad as we did yesterday and there will be losses at Sheffield, Toulouse, and Widnes and thats without taking in to account travelling to Batley and Leigh. Realistically at the moment i can see us finishing 3rd or 4th unless other teams trip up as well.
The first half yesterday was pathetic, just pathetic. Looked like we turned up thinking it was a game of tag we would win easily. Lots of players not wanting to do the hard work. On that evidence there can still be a lot of improvements made to the team for next season. Id start with a centre, standoff and once again about 3 props.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:17 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

i can see us finishing 3rd or 4th unless other teams trip up as well.

That is exactly what will happen. Other teams are going to lose as well. The betting form has gone out of the window (Donny apart).

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:27 am  

Matt James for me is the best prop at the club. He will always work hard even when others look like there not bothered.
Lets not forget that we have without doubt the best squad in this league which was proved by the start to the season, and in my opinion the form had dropped since contract negotiations started and players started to sign for next term. So what dose that mean ? A. The players with the new contracts have relaxed. B. The players without new deals are upset ?
Whatever it is it needs sorting cos this season on yesterdays showing will peter out with a whimper!

[Nat (Rugby_Aholic)]

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:56 am  

Give over Pepsi Max. Our best players yesterday were Penky and Gleeson. Two of the new contract players.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:01 am  

Nat (Rugby_Aholic) wrote:

Give over Pepsi Max. Our best players yesterday were Penky and Gleeson. Two of the new contract players.

I am not saying that this is THE reason why the first half was bad, but part of Pepsi's point was B. the ones without contracts are upset.