Re: rl : Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:33 am  

The Dors wrote:

I'm pretty much reiterating what Griff said, who did your academy keep losing to in the final? Our team was withdrawn because all the other teams weren't up to our standard hence the players weren't getting a good enough run out so there was just no point. We don't have the money to lob around like Barrow and you lot so we have to plan.

****** (Tut tut. TS)

You won the GF 2 year running both years beating Widnes , both years Leigh finished top of the league

Nothing to choose between any of the 3 of us , in fact I seem to remember both you and Widnes playing more ' senior ' players in the play offs than you had done during the regular season

However you decided to drop your reserve grade to help finance the 1 st team , ourselves and Widnes have not and are continuing , Widnes even running academy and foundation

Will the RFL take it into account ? possibly , possibly not , but dont pretend it is anything other than a money saving prioritising decision

Re: rl : Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:05 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Will the RFL take it into account ?

No as none of our players except Said are French. Also we are not an expansion team just like Leigh aren´t so will not be too surprised to see us all stay in the Championship and being held back by the RFL (Right Friggin Loonies) so that the likes of gateshead, Toulouse can expand the SL

Re: rl : Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:48 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Bollox

You won the GF 2 year running both years beating Widnes , both years Leigh finished top of the league

Nothing to choose between any of the 3 of us , in fact I seem to remember both you and Widnes playing more ' senior ' players in the play offs than you had done during the regular season

However you decided to drop your reserve grade to help finance the 1 st team , ourselves and Widnes have not and are continuing , Widnes even running academy and foundation

Will the RFL take it into account ? possibly , possibly not , but dont pretend it is anything other than a money saving prioritising decision

Because that's stating the obvious and everyone knows that but not the sole reason like everyone's trying to make out.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:10 pm  

Nice to see Widnes promoting from within..... yet again another loan signing, Jon Grayshon has joined for a month from Quinns. You cant bleat about having a great junior set up & not use em!

Re: rl : Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:11 pm  

Starbug wrote:

******

You won the GF 2 year running both years beating Widnes , both years Leigh finished top of the league

Nothing to choose between any of the 3 of us , in fact I seem to remember both you and Widnes playing more ' senior ' players in the play offs than you had done during the regular season

However you decided to drop your reserve grade to help finance the 1 st team , ourselves and Widnes have not and are continuing , Widnes even running academy and foundation

Will the RFL take it into account ? possibly , possibly not , but dont pretend it is anything other than a money saving prioritising decision

Yer true but come on what was the Reserves doing for us and the rest of RL? (apart from the winning a reserve grade GF bit)
Not a lot, it was hardly a conveyor belt of players into NL1 or even NL2 we have only had 1 or 2 - 1st team players coming through this route in the last few years.
The main benefit of the U21s / reserves was being able to give players coming back from injury game time.
I think we and ALL Championship teams (maybe not Championship 1 as they cannot afford) should have an U20 team.
But I was happy to sacrifice the Reserves for the 1st team this year, it aint done us bad has it???

Re: rl : Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:38 pm  

The Lucky Black Cat wrote:

No as none of our players except Said are French. Also we are not an expansion team just like Leigh aren´t so will not be too surprised to see us all stay in the Championship and being held back by the RFL (Right Friggin Loonies) so that the likes of gateshead, Toulouse can expand the SL

Said is Morrocan.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:22 pm  

griffax wrote:

Nice to see Widnes promoting from within..... yet again another loan signing, Jon Grayshon has joined for a month from Quinns. You cant bleat about having a great junior set up & not use em!

I think you'll find we've actually used 7 youngsters, which have come through our academy, and there are around 5 or 6 now playing in SL from our academy. One of those players has now been called up for an international game with England. So we can 'bleat about having a great junior set up' as much as we like.

How may of your academy youngsters have played for you this season?

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:25 pm  

Pepe wrote:

I think you'll find we've actually used 7 youngsters, which have come through our academy, and there are around 5 or 6 now playing in SL from our academy. One of those players has now been called up for an international game with England. So we can 'bleat about having a great junior set up' as much as we like.

How may of your academy youngsters have played for you this season?

Three Hope that helps.

And well done for brining this youngsters through...but is it helping you? I would suggest no, as your best youngsters are getting signed by other clubs (as in Myler) and the ones coming though dont look like they are good enough...if they were...you wouldnt be struglling like you are and bringing loan players and letting your younger ones go on loan.

: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:45 pm  

a.n Other wrote:

Three Hope that helps.

Myler
Nash
Haggerty
Mills
I think there may be another one or two as well.

a.n Other wrote:

And well done for brining this youngsters through...but is it helping you?

It should be a big plus come the next round of licences, and will set us apart from the rest.

a.n Other wrote:

I would suggest no, as your best youngsters are getting signed by other clubs (as in Myler) and the ones coming though dont look like they are good enough...if they were...you wouldnt be struglling like you are and bringing loan players and letting your younger ones go on loan.

That's the nature of being in the lower leagues. But if you want to get out of it and into SL your club needs to offer more than just ptting everything into the first team.

We are struggling because of the unbalanced recruitment of Ste Mac and lack of training time put in place by him. We have actually played our youngsters far too much and put too much pressure on them imo. Yates and Flynn will be a major part of our future and there are several very good prospects coming though in the second wave of new academy players, such as Houghton and Wood-Hulme.

If we can win the NRC or get to a GF this season, you'll probably see Widnes taking chances on more younsters next season.

: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:36 pm  

I have said before on this board on a whole other thread I started that I would like fax in super league. You can see from the amount you took to cas in the cup, that fans would come back if you were succesful, it would be like when Hull KR came back, they had a little bit of succes straight away so the fans came back. Fax have also been known for taking lots of away support in the past, this should be taken into consideration. Fax have a good rugby league stadium with modern facilities on the way.

However I would love Leigh back in as well as they would fill our away stand which would be great. Widnes would also bring alot to super league in terms of away support and rivalry. It is going to be a very close race for super league. I would love to go up to 16 teams next time round tbh.