: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:03 pm  

Haighy wrote:

Damn and blast, ah well, I'll go and support a traditional RL side like Celtic.

What...they have no history. Now, fulhamcrusaderbroncoquins.....we have a heritage (just no fans)

: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:19 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Good Job it's only 2 points in the Franchise/Licence biddy thingy then isn't it Sorry....away fans is "nil" points in the Licencing procedure!

Seriously guys.....in 2003 you averaged 2,976 fans compared to the fulhamcrusaderbroncoquins average of 3,547. 570 more fans at each game and if you're going to say they were all away fans....then why did these superdooper RL heartland fans travel 200 odd miles each way to watch us and dodge the more local "traditional" fixture

Oh...by the way....if you are going to say "Halifax were rubbish and getting hammered and that's why we had rubbish crowds, then I point you in the direction of Catalans year 1 (6,862) finished bottom and Celtic year 1 so far (3,700) going to finish bottom.

Lastly my flatcapped whippet loving pigeon fanciers...........I would love to see the dummy spit from your 500 travelling fans If SLY TV were to move your game in 2lose when 95% of people booked their trips when the fixtures come out. There are close to 70 Quins fans alone who will actually be on a Ryanair plane when the game kicks off.

Still, would love to see you and Widnes back in Superleague as the majority of your fans are top people.

Back handed compliment my friend, make your mind up.
As for crowds well don't believe all that you read, teams have been inflating gates for the very reason you have written, to tick boxes for SL.
I wish that the RFL would stop this rubbish and ask for TRUE crowd figures, as in those who actually attend the game, but they won't cos they want to publish good crowds.
Like Celtic Crusaders really have got 3700 average gates???
I spoke to a Wigan fan and he said they took around 2K which was over half the crowd yet the gate was said to be something like 5700.
Yer right.

: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:33 am  

Fax4Life wrote:

As for crowds well don't believe all that you read, teams have been inflating gates for the very reason you have written, to tick boxes for SL.

We were talking to a Toulouse administrator who said their crowds were between 2500 & 3500 this season. I've not seen a crowd figure announced yet for Saturday night but there sure as hell wasn't that many. I'd say we had about 400 fans there and accounted for about a third of the crowd.

: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:38 am  

crowd 2697

: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:46 am  

Fax4Life wrote:

As for crowds well don't believe all that you read, teams have been inflating gates for the very reason you have written, to tick boxes for SL.

Whilst there have been some strange crowds announced, at the Stoop this year, we seem to be "under declaring" I can understand the temptation to overdeclare crowds but that comes with the added tax bill, so are the benefits really that good to risk your fanancial stability? Why we are underdeclaring is a mystery to me, unless, as you say, we have previously overdeclared and are now being more truthfull....which is shamefull if true (and stupid, as we were always going to get a licence anyway).Good effort to take 400+ to 2lose BTW....(not a backhanded compliment BTW)

: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:32 am  

I would say the crowd was around 1,400 with maybe 350/400 from Fax.

: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:01 am  

Its also worth pointing out that Celtic and Quins fans aren't used to paying to watch their team or travelling...
Im sure the RFL would have given away free tickets for anyone that new what a rugby ball looked like if they could have.
I bet Siddal would have taken more to Catalan than Celtic or Quins could manage...
This age of jokers running RFL will not stand well in the History books.
At least they play RL in the south of France and love it, kick out the Welsh and Londoners.... population 10 million v people interested in RL 10(willing to pay to watch)

: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:16 am  

Huddshay wrote:

I would say the crowd was around 1,400 with maybe 350/400 from Fax.

spot on.thats about what i thought.2700 LMFHO.

: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:25 am  

justthebasicfax wrote:

Its also worth pointing out that Celtic and Quins fans aren't used to paying to watch their team or travelling...
Im sure the RFL would have given away free tickets for anyone that new what a rugby ball looked like if they could have.
I bet Siddal would have taken more to Catalan than Celtic or Quins could manage...
This age of jokers running RFL will not stand well in the History books.
At least they play RL in the south of France and love it, kick out the Welsh and Londoners.... population 10 million v people interested in RL 10(willing to pay to watch)

see.....after 13 posts you are already coming accross as an uneducated anti-expansionist pillock.
Regardless of what goes on at Celtic, Quins fans do pay to get in. Local Kids get free tickets and they generally add 200 to the gate. As for travelling fans and paying for it.....9,000 miles last year was the average for the away crew. Unlike a heartland club, where you can jump on a bus or train for 30 minutes to an away game, some Quins fans travel 50 miles + to a home game.
I do not understand the attitude of certain fans from "traditional" clubs when it comes to franchising. Yes, you follow your club and yes, you want to see the best rugby on offer, but let's face it, your last year in SL makes our crowds look like the masses led by moses
I believe Widnes will get the nod next time and if there are 2 places up for grabs, you and 2lose will be in the frame, but flatearth posts like the one above do you or your club no favours in the RL community. If you don't believe me, please point out the sympathetic threads for leigh....who spat their dummy out publicly when they didn't get in and now find themselves potentially looking at an away fixture v London Skolars next year.

: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:32 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

see.....after 13 posts you are already coming accross as an uneducated anti-expansionist pillock.
Regardless of what goes on at Celtic, Quins fans do pay to get in. Local Kids get free tickets and they generally add 200 to the gate. As for travelling fans and paying for it.....9,000 miles last year was the average for the away crew. Unlike a heartland club, where you can jump on a bus or train for 30 minutes to an away game, some Quins fans travel 50 miles + to a home game.
I do not understand the attitude of certain fans from "traditional" clubs when it comes to franchising. Yes, you follow your club and yes, you want to see the best rugby on offer, but let's face it, your last year in SL makes our crowds look like the masses led by moses
I believe Widnes will get the nod next time and if there are 2 places up for grabs, you and 2lose will be in the frame, but flatearth posts like the one above do you or your club no favours in the RL community. If you don't believe me, please point out the sympathetic threads for leigh....who spat their dummy out publicly when they didn't get in and now find themselves potentially looking at an away fixture v London Skolars next year.

Good point. Not sure we would be having this kind of debate if Fax had gotten into SL. I think the main point that JustThe BasicFax is tryin to make is that expansion for expansions sake, and at the sacrifice of heartland clubs, some of which have been in existance for over 130 years. If it was a 2 division league, with promotion and relegation and ALL clubs had the same rules then there would be no problems.