: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:00 pm  

I see where freddies wig is coming from. We played 2 hookers at half back last Friday. We could do with a steadying general at half back ... yestin harris would complement out squad perfectly, then we would REALLY be the best team by a country mile. Then we can have gleeson / penky alternating at their rightful hooking postion, Danger Man Bob at loose, get a mental strong running second rower. We're fine at props if Matt James stays, I like Wilson, Tangart and Frank, indeed .... for the first time in years .... I cannot honestly say there's a bad apple in this squad, the kind of bad apple which is the but of terrace frustration. I know the likes of Barker has had a moan or three, but not in the same vain as past players like Cantillon and Moxon.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:03 pm  

Tony Fax wrote:

.... I cannot honestly say there's a bad apple in this squad, the kind of bad apple which is the but of terrace frustration. I know the likes of Barker has had a moan or three, but not in the same vain as past players like Cantillon and Moxon.

And more recently, Dean Lawford.

Very good point there TF, Theres not a single player who's been used as a scapegoat, but at the same time, the terraces are more positive as we're winning more than we're losing, if that changed so would the attitude towards players and one may be singled out.

Re: Great signs of commitiment form squad : Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:01 pm  

billyfax wrote:

Ok adding a stand off to the team then.

Who are you taking out? If you want beswick, black, gleeson and penky in the team where the hell are you going to put a stand off??? You need forwards on the bench as they do the work load. Plus gleeson and penky would fill the other bench slot.

Maybe next year we might be able to fit one in if beswick moved to loose forward and shad was to return home but as the team stands now you'd have to drop one of the four main players!

I'd put a stand off at .... stand off black is a scrum half, penky and Gleeson are out and out hookers and Beswick is a hooker/loose forward.

Re: Great signs of commitiment form squad : Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:33 pm  

Leon Ashton wrote:

I'd put a stand off at .... stand off black is a scrum half, penky and Gleeson are out and out hookers and Beswick is a hooker/loose forward.

Clearly you aren't really reading any of my posts, just replying to the ones you don't like

When we had holroyd we didn't have beswick. You can't put beswick at loose becuase then you'd have to drop shad. You can't drop shad so would you then put shad top fullback. Oh no, then you'd have to drop miles. However you can't drop miles. So put him at centre oh no, we have better centres. Could play him second row, oh no wait he isn't big enough.

Which gets back to the original point, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PLAY THE STAND OFF OR WHO ARE YOU GOING TO DROP IN ORDER TO PLAY HIM? You can wish to add someone all you like but you have to make room for them.

As i also stated earlier, if shad is returning home then you can fit him in. Stop trying to be a smart ar$e and read all the posts next time.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:42 pm  

Tony Fax wrote:

I see where freddies wig is coming from. We played 2 hookers at half back last Friday. We could do with a steadying general at half back ... yestin harris would complement out squad perfectly, then we would REALLY be the best team by a country mile. Then we can have gleeson / penky alternating at their rightful hooking postion, Danger Man Bob at loose, get a mental strong running second rower. We're fine at props if Matt James stays, I like Wilson, Tangart and Frank, indeed .... for the first time in years .... I cannot honestly say there's a bad apple in this squad, the kind of bad apple which is the but of terrace frustration. I know the likes of Barker has had a moan or three, but not in the same vain as past players like Cantillon and Moxon.

I agree that Harris would be a good player and steadying hand but i'm just not sure we can afford another big name player. We must run close to the salary cap limit if we re sign a lot of the team. It would be nice if we could get an experienced player to fill that role though. Take pressure off black and beswick in the last tackle scenario. We certainly don't pressure teams on the last tackle with kicks like we did last year. I'm sure that will be looked at though, kicking is our biggest weakness this year. Something we can improve on for next season.

Re: Great signs of commitiment form squad : Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:35 pm  

billyfax wrote:

Clearly you aren't really reading any of my posts, just replying to the ones you don't like

When we had holroyd we didn't have beswick. You can't put beswick at loose becuase then you'd have to drop shad. You can't drop shad so would you then put shad top fullback. Oh no, then you'd have to drop miles. However you can't drop miles. So put him at centre oh no, we have better centres. Could play him second row, oh no wait he isn't big enough.

Which gets back to the original point, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PLAY THE STAND OFF OR WHO ARE YOU GOING TO DROP IN ORDER TO PLAY HIM? You can wish to add someone all you like but you have to make room for them.

As i also stated earlier, if shad is returning home then you can fit him in. Stop trying to be a smart ar$e and read all the posts next time.

Wind you neck back in Its perfectly simple, stand off plays at stand off, shad at centre, he is a far better centre than Haley, Haley is a better winger than Worrincy who misses out job done. Remember Goddard hasn't signed for next year yet

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:14 pm  

Going back to your original post its good to hear, I do hope we keep all the lads and just tweek the pack without naming names we all know who we need to let go this time, sorry lads.
James Haley is a throw back to when players were loyal to their club, thanks James - top bloke, really hope you are staying mate.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:26 pm  

for the first time in a while watching fax i dont think i have seen a team where there is no reason to get rid of anybody and am really impressed with the squad we have this season

Re: Great signs of commitiment form squad : Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:08 am  

Leon Ashton wrote:

Wind you neck back in Its perfectly simple, stand off plays at stand off, shad at centre, he is a far better centre than Haley, Haley is a better winger than Worrincy who misses out job done. Remember Goddard hasn't signed for next year yet

Thank you. Im not the only one who thinks the obvious then. Only difference for me would be Haley missing out. Said all year that next season we will need a Centre, Stand off and a couple of Props.

Agree with TF Harris would have being fantastic for us.

Re: Great signs of commitiment form squad : Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:40 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

Thank you. Im not the only one who thinks the obvious then. Only difference for me would be Haley missing out. Said all year that next season we will need a Centre, Stand off and a couple of Props.

Agree with TF Harris would have being fantastic for us.

What has Haley done wrong this season, I feel he is up there as one of our most improved players.