: Mon May 11, 2009 9:03 am  

Yob wrote:

Did the person briefing the officials even know the rules? Did he brief them correctly? Why were the rules on the RFL website changed on Sunday when we played on Saturday?

I e-mailed the RFL with those very same questions after the match at best it was another shambles you would think if they changed the rules it would be on their own website.As yet I have not recieved a reply but as I never do I will not be holding my breath.

: Mon May 11, 2009 9:10 am  

johnny freeman fan club wrote:

I e-mailed the RFL with those very same questions after the match at best it was another shambles you would think if they changed the rules it would be on their own website.As yet I have not recieved a reply but as I never do I will not be holding my breath.

may get a reply after they decide which excuse to use. 2008 or 2009 book of excuses.

: Mon May 11, 2009 11:05 am  

I agree 100% with OB on this one. I reckon if the announcer had got the announcement right the first time this wouldn't be an issue as it wouldn't have been a suprise when Sherwin kicked the goal and we didn't know it was over.

If we had won it would been a quirky way to end a match!!

: Mon May 11, 2009 11:27 am  

Id say it was nothing worse than the consisent, shambolic and amateur display that the RFL continue to show. It is to be expected. The draw for the 5th round was proof of this.

: Mon May 11, 2009 11:43 am  

Officeboy wrote:

Can't everyone stop moaning ffs? It's taking the gloss off a great performance by the team.

Not a good way to lose I agree, but the way one team was always going to lose according to the rules, which, at the end of the day, the players, coaches and officials knew, and were the same for every club in every game of the round.

The single problem was that the PA man was badly briefed and didn't make the situation clear to the crowd at the outset. That's Cas's fault, no-one else's.

The (SL) coaches don't want replays - they think they already play too many games - and they're the people with the sway. They're the ones who've brought about this rule.

"In all honesty I'd be saying the same if we'd won".

My ar5e.

If people can't moan on here, we might as well shut the forum down. Absolutely, no one has taken any gloss off the great performance, nor can they.

: Mon May 11, 2009 12:11 pm  

The main point I feel aggrieved by is that they scored the drop goal on the first possesion in extra-time. They had one set of six tackles, we had none.

In a football penalty shoot-out both teams get the same chances. Basically, if the first penalty in the sudden death situation goes in, it doesn't mean that team has won, because the opposition get one chance to equal it up. So both teams have taken the same amount of penalties.

In International Tag-rugby. If the scores are level after extra-time they play golden point. However, if the receiving team scores on their first possesion, the other side get one possesion (6-tackles) to attempt to equalise, if they fail to score the other team wins.

In essence, we should have been given one set of 6 tackles to try and score. If we don't score its game over but atleast both teams would have had the same opportunities.

Its a poor rule and a replay after 80 minutes, then extra time in replay always worked in the past.

: Mon May 11, 2009 12:36 pm  

I think Golden Goal doesn't work for football and I think golden point is worse for rugby.

The game was awsome and I believe it would have been even better if it could have had an extra 20 mins.

I'm not being a bitter fan, I think our lads we're great... do I think the result would have been different after 20 mins of extra time? I still suspect cas would have won but what a scrap it would have been.

As for fitness- I was surprised at the end of 80 mins that we were looking by far the least tired of the two teams... and that could have swung it.

: Mon May 11, 2009 3:06 pm  

My issue is, what were the players/captains told? Where they told 10 mins each way extra time, or where they told 10 mins each way extra time but the first point wins?

: Mon May 11, 2009 3:06 pm  

What would have been the situation if Cas had kicked the goal from the kick off? Is that allowed?

: Mon May 11, 2009 3:16 pm  

Yob wrote:

What would have been the situation if Cas had kicked the goal from the kick off? Is that allowed?

Cant score a goal from a kickoff. Would have been a drop out by fax if the ball bounced before the dead ball line or a penalty to fax if it went out on the full.